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[Maximus]

Erdogan left Brussels empty handed on Monday.

After about 2 hours of meetings with EU officials.

The EU expects the implementation of the existing agreement on migration, which included preventing illegal immigration in to the EU from Turkey and funding to help refugees already in Turkey.

Erdogan says that the EU has broken that agreement and he is looking for a string of other benefits too. Including updating the customs union, visa free travel for Turks in the shengen area and support for his plans in Syria.

[repulsewarrior]

...right, he can return to a Rule of Law; isn't that a condition for Visa Free travel?

[Maximus]

I think all member states have to agree to that,

Which I don’t see them doing,

they couldn’t and don’t fulfill (practically) any criteria to become a member state. So now he wants a free trade agreement and the right for anyone with a Turkish passport to move around the eu (live and work) as they see fit.

yeah right, everyone else had to comply and he thinks he can just usurp benefits through blackmail.

there are many major issues with that request and you couldnt trust him not to circumvent it by selling passports.

Absolute disaster in the making.

[Kikapu]

I think all member states have to agree to that,

Which I don’t see them doing,

they couldn’t and don’t fulfill (practically) any criteria to become a member state. So now he wants a free trade agreement and the right for anyone with a Turkish passport to move around the eu (live and work) as they see fit.

yeah right, everyone else had to comply and he thinks he can just usurp benefits through blackmail.

there are many major issues with that request and you couldnt trust him not to circumvent it by selling passports.

Absolute disaster in the making.

If Turks had a visa free access to the EU, Erdogan would issue/sell Turkish passports to all the refugees, migrants and terrorist then send them to the EU to enter trouble free, and once they reach the EU, to throw away their passports and ask for asylum or commit terrorist acts.

[Maximus]

Here it is, for the record.

Migrants interviewed by the newspaper said they had been taken to the Greek border on free buses and, once they arrived, transported between border checkpoints by people smugglers.

Migrants were beaten back by Greek police, but the Turkish police did not allow them to leave the border area, forcing them to try to cross again the next day, Ahmed said.

https://ahvalnews.com/turkey-migrants/t ... asia-times

[Maximus]

Turkish police threatening and forcing migrants off the bus at gun point at the border.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrfnUKueVyM

[Paphitis]

Mitsotakis has been handling this real well.

Looks like Erdogan is losing control.

Turkey won’t be getting the Patriots either unless they send the S400s back to Russia.

Erdogan is looking like an even bigger fool if that’s possible.

[Kikapu]

Mitsotakis has been handling this real well.

Looks like Erdogan is losing control.

Turkey won’t be getting the Patriots either unless they send the S400s back to Russia.

Erdogan is looking like an even bigger fool if that’s possible.

Both Putin and Trump are playing Erdogan to force him to do things which will result Erdogan paying the price no matter what he does.

It is a case of Erdogan getting fucked, coming and going!

This is what happens when he played the roll of a cheap whore between the two super powers.

He has now found his place, which is being between a rock and a hard place.

[Maximus]

He has been,

as well as some other countries in the EU.

But the way the EU is dealing with these migrant invasions and Turkey's behavior is very weak. Almost pathetic.

They have given the kind of impression that the EU is an international continent and Europeans dont really matter. People are taking advantage of it and trying to use the EU's laws and values against Europeans.

Sometimes, I think the UK was right to leave.

The EU was founded to strengthen relations and economics between European states but they have ended up arguing with each other about importing and paying for people from the third world.

[Maximus]

I have been reading a lot of comments under articles and youtube videos reporting about this situation on the border.

Like 99.9% are grateful to Greece for securing Europes borders and see Turkey as an enemy of Europe. Turkeys imagine has hit an all time low internationally.

lots of commentators are also calling for a Turkish boycott (goods and Tourism).