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[Londonrake]

I got a call about an hour ago, that my 68 year old brother in London with the coronavirus has finally been taken off the ventilator after 16 days and is able to breath on his own, but still asleep with oxygen mask on. He should wake up sometime tomorrow. Family very happy at last, but he will remain in the hospital for further 2-3 weeks longer to recover.

Good news. Must be a great relief I imagine. Best wishes for his recovery.

[Kikapu]

I got a call about an hour ago, that my 68 year old brother in London with the coronavirus has finally been taken off the ventilator after 16 days and is able to breath on his own, but still asleep with oxygen mask on. He should wake up sometime tomorrow. Family very happy at last, but he will remain in the hospital for further 2-3 weeks longer to recover.

Good news. Must be a great relief I imagine. Best wishes for his recovery.

Thanks LR.
Hope his lungs are not too damaged from the virus and the ventilator.

[erolz66]

Great news Kikapu. I barely know you in reality and your brother not at all but I am happy for you both. Genuinely. Good news is so especially welcome right now so thanks for sharing.

[erolz66]

When you fuck with nature it turns around and bites you on the bum…

You aint going to like the sound of this then

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... k-11976681

Clinical trials of a coronavirus vaccine will begin on people from Thursday, Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said.

The Oxford vaccine, called ChAdOx1 nCoV-19, is made from a harmless chimpanzee virus that has been genetically engineered to carry part of the coronavirus.

You do know what a "trial" is right?

Give me a whistle when they actually work...

Was thinking more of the 'genetic engineering' in light of your 'you fuck with nature...' comment.

[Kikapu]

Great news Kikapu. I barely know you in reality and your brother not at all but I am happy for you both. Genuinely. Good news is so especially welcome right now so thanks for sharing.

Thanks Erol.
The longer he was on the ventilator, our hopes were high he would make it, considering most patients die when they are on the ventilator, as it is the last course of action in trying to save those falling ill to coronavirus.

[B25]

I got a call about an hour ago, that my 68 year old brother in London with the coronavirus has finally been taken off the ventilator after 16 days and is able to breath on his own, but still asleep with oxygen mask on. He should wake up sometime tomorrow. Family very happy at last, but he will remain in the hospital for further 2-3 weeks longer to recover.

Glad to hear it, hope he gets through this, it is very scary for everyone, as you just don't know which was it will go.

[Kikapu]

I got a call about an hour ago, that my 68 year old brother in London with the coronavirus has finally been taken off the ventilator after 16 days and is able to breath on his own, but still asleep with oxygen mask on. He should wake up sometime tomorrow. Family very happy at last, but he will remain in the hospital for further 2-3 weeks longer to recover.

Glad to hear it, hope he gets through this, it is very scary for everyone, as you just don't know which was it will go.

Thanks B25.

After you told us your experience, I told it to his wife which gave her hope, even though you were not on the ventilator.

After my brother was taken to the hospital, his wife got a call from the nurse to say that he would most probably die and for her to just talk to him briefly. So you can imagine what the last 16 days has been on her.

[Paphitis]

On the issue of confirmation bias more generally Tim, lets take a look at one example from Paphitis because often understanding is found by looking at extreme ends of spectrum and because he is big enough to take it.

When Paphitis links to a BBC article that explicitly says Australia was not the first country to impose a partial travel ban on non citizens travelling from china and uses it to prove his statement that Australia was the first country to do so, what do you see ? I see something akin to an extreme degree of confirmation bias. Am I the 'crazy one' here in seeing such ?

Sorry but I never said Australia was the very first. i said it was one of the first as it closed its borders on 9th of March, 2 days after the USA, and 1 day after New Zealand.

The very first was non other than Taiwan which closed its borders on 31st of December, 2019. I have always maintained that Taiwan was the first to do it by a long shot and have also maintained they were blatantly disregarded by WHO. Well look who's laughing now.

I have however maintained that Australia's response to chy-na Virus has probably been the most effective response in the world, along with South Korea. When Australia shut its borders, it ramped up the restrictions very quickly from their and now public gatherings of more than 2 people are restricted. You can be issued a fine for gathering in groups of more than 2.

I have been on the receiving end of this Police State whilst travelling to and from work (I won't be doing that now as I am on leave UFN). The police lines, at every domestic airport gate makes me think I am not in Australia. it's very full on and there is also army soldiers waiting and putting the selected into lines to be put on Army buses and taken to their isolation. It's literally surreal.

It's actually quite amazing witnessing what my country is capable of and how they handle a State of Emergency. On the one hand, it's worrying but on the other hand I feel Australia is capable of winning any war.

[Paphitis]

I got a call about an hour ago, that my 68 year old brother in London with the coronavirus has finally been taken off the ventilator after 16 days and is able to breath on his own, but still asleep with oxygen mask on. He should wake up sometime tomorrow. Family very happy at last, but he will remain in the hospital for further 2-3 weeks longer to recover.

That's great news Kikapu and all the best with a speedy recovery period. he made it and pulled through.

[erolz66]

Sorry but I never said Australia was the very first. i said it was one of the first as it closed its borders on 9th of March, 2 days after the USA, and 1 day after New Zealand.

This is not rocket science Paphitis. You cited an article that says Italy placed travel restriction on china before the US did and then within a few lines of citing that article you claim that the US did so before Italy.

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Such behaviour is beyond 'confirmation bias'.