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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:05 am

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Kikapu wrote:When cities open beaches such as in Florida and the people flock to them, even if they were to follow distancing with 2 meters which most do not anyway, they are too stupid to understand, that the breeze blowing onshore will carry any virus coughed or sneezed much further distance than just 2 meters. Stupid is, stupid does, which I heard somewhere! :roll:

If these people are under fifty and in reasonable health, the risk to them from the coronavirus is negligible and they are most likely to suffer absolutely no symptoms and at worst something resembling a cold for a couple of days, so why are they stupid? Even better, they will then have immunity. I would humbly suggest that those who have been taken in by the false narrative that has been spun around this virus are stupid. But there is nothing to stop the latter from cowering in isolation at home if they wish to do so, but let's make it voluntary.

Countless young & healthy people have died from this virus (it's all over the news), and many of those “recovered” are now with permanently damaged lungs.

This virus is very nasty and lurking out of control, and if it just so happens to come in your direction you’ll regret the day you were born! :lol:


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https://www.businessinsider.com/coronav ... isk-2020-2

The latest scientific research based on taking random samples from a representative cross section of the population is showing that death rates are much lower than previously thought, so the rates shown in the above graph are almost certainly exaggerated.

German pulmonologist Wolfgang Wodarg has explained that viruses of this nature constantly circulate among the population, with about 100 going round every winter and around 15% of them are coronaviruses. They cause the phenomenon known as colds and flu. Sadly, they take a toll of the sick and aged as they go round, and I am afraid this is how nature works and we are all mortal and have to die of something. Influenza kills 650,000 people worldwide on average. Occassionally, a more destructive one goes round and takes a heavy toll, such as the 1968 Hong Kong flu which was estimated to have killed up to four million people worldwide. Yes, this was a disaster, and the current Covid epidemic is bad (but nothing like as bad as the 1968 epidemic), but it needs to be put into proportion.

Retired American professor of epidemiology Knut Wittkowski says in a recent interview that from his reading of the figures the virus has peaked everywhere and will be over in a few weeks.

However, if you wish to wallow in fear, convinced the virus is "very nasty and lurking out of control," based purely from swallowing a perception operation conducted through the slanted, alarmist, selective reporting by the media rather than seeking out the views of experts in the field, this is your prerogative. The Gates Foundation - considered by most criticial commentators to be a vehicle serving the interests of big pharma - is getting its money's worth for the $250 million it has given in donations to various media companies throughout the world.

Incidentally, I believe I have had this virus and I recovered simply by resting at home, so I am not too worried personally. Even if I haven't, I would rather develop immunity the way nature intended, and not from Bill Gates' mates' vaccine.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:18 am

Even Dr Hans Henri P. Kluge, WHO* Regional Director for Europe will tell you:

“We know that over 95% of these deaths occurred in those older than 60 years. More than 50% of all deaths were people aged 80 years or older. We also know from reports that 8 out of 10 deaths are occurring in individuals with at least one underlying co-morbidity, in particular those with cardiovascular diseases/hypertension and diabetes, but also with a range of other chronic underlying conditions.”

http://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topic ... ity-spread

* “In 2014, WHO received USD 6,158,153 from GlaxoSmithKline (GSK). It received USD 5,785,000 and USD 8,266,284 in 2012 and 2013 respectively from GSK. GSK Biologics paid USD 17,000. Novartis AG donated USD 5,300,000 in 2014 and USD 4,500,000 in 2013.ÂÂ Hoffmann-La Roche donated USD 6,158,153 in 2014 and USD 4,806,492 in 2013.ÂÂ The purposes of those donations were not disclosed.”

https://www.globalpolicy.org/home/270-g ... lines.html

WHO also received $500 million from the Bill Gates Foundation in 2019.

How independent is this body any more?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:22 am

This planet doesn't deserve the likes of Bill Gates...
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:57 am

Get Real! wrote:This planet doesn't deserve the likes of Bill Gates...


The deeper I dig into the murky truths surrounding the Gates Foundation, a good exposé being available below, the more I agree.

https://www.thenation.com/article/socie ... lanthropy/

Don't you think they may be a reason why it donates so much to various media companies? You need to ask cui bono with reference to the media hysteria over the coronavirus (Is there really absolutely nothing else going on in the world just now?).
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:46 am

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:When cities open beaches such as in Florida and the people flock to them, even if they were to follow distancing with 2 meters which most do not anyway, they are too stupid to understand, that the breeze blowing onshore will carry any virus coughed or sneezed much further distance than just 2 meters. Stupid is, stupid does, which I heard somewhere! :roll:

If these people are under fifty and in reasonable health, the risk to them from the coronavirus is negligible and they are most likely to suffer absolutely no symptoms and at worst something resembling a cold for a couple of days, so why are they stupid? Even better, they will then have immunity. I would humbly suggest that those who have been taken in by the false narrative that has been spun around this virus are stupid. But there is nothing to stop the latter from cowering in isolation at home if they wish to do so, but let's make it voluntary.

Countless young & healthy people have died from this virus (it's all over the news), and many of those “recovered” are now with permanently damaged lungs.

This virus is very nasty and lurking out of control, and if it just so happens to come in your direction you’ll regret the day you were born! :lol:


I beg to differ.

It's dangerous yes, but the end of the world it's not. The recovery rate is very high except in countries where the health system is overwhelmed. If the health system is overwhelmed, the fatality rate is much higher.

And we have seen many people recover and living normal lives. No damage to their lungs.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:52 am

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:When cities open beaches such as in Florida and the people flock to them, even if they were to follow distancing with 2 meters which most do not anyway, they are too stupid to understand, that the breeze blowing onshore will carry any virus coughed or sneezed much further distance than just 2 meters. Stupid is, stupid does, which I heard somewhere! :roll:

If these people are under fifty and in reasonable health, the risk to them from the coronavirus is negligible and they are most likely to suffer absolutely no symptoms and at worst something resembling a cold for a couple of days, so why are they stupid? Even better, they will then have immunity. I would humbly suggest that those who have been taken in by the false narrative that has been spun around this virus are stupid. But there is nothing to stop the latter from cowering in isolation at home if they wish to do so, but let's make it voluntary.

Countless young & healthy people have died from this virus (it's all over the news), and many of those “recovered” are now with permanently damaged lungs.

This virus is very nasty and lurking out of control, and if it just so happens to come in your direction you’ll regret the day you were born! :lol:


I beg to differ.

It's dangerous yes, but the end of the world it's not. The recovery rate is very high except in countries where the health system is overwhelmed. If the health system is overwhelmed, the fatality rate is much higher.

And we have seen many people recover and living normal lives. No damage to their lungs.


Indeed. Not even the aged are doomed:

101-Year-Old Man Who Survived 1918 Flu Beats Coronavirus, Too

https://futurism.com/neoscope/101-year- ... oronavirus
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:57 am

My gratitude goes out to Sweden, the country that stood up to big-pharma bullying and did not turn the country into a police state with everyone under house arrest, and has shown that a less panic-stricken approach can work. Otherwise, like the old joke about the man sprinkling dust on Clapham Common to keep away the lions, the WHO/big pharma would have been able to respond once the epidemic peaks and then ends, as they always have and always will, “You see!” when challenged, “But there are no lions on Clapham Common” and claim that this assault on liberty had been necessary.

The population of the Swedish capital Stockholm could achieve “herd immunity” from coronavirus within weeks, a health chief has claimed.

Dr Anders Tegnell, the man responsible for drawing up the country’s controversial coronavirus strategy, said infection rates in the capital are slowing because people had developed a resistance.

“According to our modellers, we are starting to see so many immune people in the population in Stockholm that it is starting to have an effect on the spread of the infection,” he told local media.

“Our models point to some time in May.”


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-s ... 33606.html
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:12 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:My gratitude goes out to Sweden, the country that stood up to big-pharma bullying and did not turn the country into a police state with everyone under house arrest, and has shown that a less panic-stricken approach can work. Otherwise, like the old joke about the man sprinkling dust on Clapham Common to keep away the lions, the WHO/big pharma would have been able to respond once the epidemic peaks and then ends, as they always have and always will, “You see!” when challenged, “But there are no lions on Clapham Common” and claim that this assault on liberty had been necessary.

The population of the Swedish capital Stockholm could achieve “herd immunity” from coronavirus within weeks, a health chief has claimed.

Dr Anders Tegnell, the man responsible for drawing up the country’s controversial coronavirus strategy, said infection rates in the capital are slowing because people had developed a resistance.

“According to our modellers, we are starting to see so many immune people in the population in Stockholm that it is starting to have an effect on the spread of the infection,” he told local media.

“Our models point to some time in May.”


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-s ... 33606.html


Not just Sweden, but Australia too.

Australia just said that it will become self sufficient with regard to Pharmaceuticals. No more Chy-na holding us hostage and threatening us or buying p all our pharmaceutical stockpiles.

I'm hoping Australia also cuts off all funding to WHO like Trump did. If they do that, 70% of Australia will be voting for them.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Kikapu » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:22 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:My gratitude goes out to Sweden, the country that stood up to big-pharma bullying and did not turn the country into a police state with everyone under house arrest, and has shown that a less panic-stricken approach can work. Otherwise, like the old joke about the man sprinkling dust on Clapham Common to keep away the lions, the WHO/big pharma would have been able to respond once the epidemic peaks and then ends, as they always have and always will, “You see!” when challenged, “But there are no lions on Clapham Common” and claim that this assault on liberty had been necessary.

The population of the Swedish capital Stockholm could achieve “herd immunity” from coronavirus within weeks, a health chief has claimed.

Dr Anders Tegnell, the man responsible for drawing up the country’s controversial coronavirus strategy, said infection rates in the capital are slowing because people had developed a resistance.

“According to our modellers, we are starting to see so many immune people in the population in Stockholm that it is starting to have an effect on the spread of the infection,” he told local media.

“Our models point to some time in May.”


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-s ... 33606.html


So far Sweden has had 3 times more deaths than recovered with thousands more waiting to die who are infected if the current trend continues.

Is that really a success story?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:27 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:My gratitude goes out to Sweden, the country that stood up to big-pharma bullying and did not turn the country into a police state with everyone under house arrest, and has shown that a less panic-stricken approach can work. Otherwise, like the old joke about the man sprinkling dust on Clapham Common to keep away the lions, the WHO/big pharma would have been able to respond once the epidemic peaks and then ends, as they always have and always will, “You see!” when challenged, “But there are no lions on Clapham Common” and claim that this assault on liberty had been necessary.

The population of the Swedish capital Stockholm could achieve “herd immunity” from coronavirus within weeks, a health chief has claimed.

Dr Anders Tegnell, the man responsible for drawing up the country’s controversial coronavirus strategy, said infection rates in the capital are slowing because people had developed a resistance.

“According to our modellers, we are starting to see so many immune people in the population in Stockholm that it is starting to have an effect on the spread of the infection,” he told local media.

“Our models point to some time in May.”


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-s ... 33606.html


So far Sweden has had 3 times more deaths than recovered with thousands more waiting to die who are infected if the current trend continues.

Is that really a success story?


If they save their economy with only a 2 to 5% reduction in GDP, then yes, it's an amazing success story for the Swedes.

It beats the 20% reduction in GDP everyone else is gonna experience in the EU. Plus, they are still getting ravaged.

Our poor young people are gonna wish they were dead with a 20 to 30% reduction in GDP destroying their lives.
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