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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:04 pm

Londonrake wrote:I read today that the 4000 bed hospital, put together at the London Excel, had 19 patients in over the Easter holiday.


Here's a source to confirm that:

"London’s Nightingale hospital has remained largely empty, with just 19 patients being treated at the facility over the Easter weekend, HSJ understands."

https://www.hsj.co.uk/service-design/ex ... 98.article
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby CrookedRiverGuy » Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:I'm a little more positive than you.

The US and Europe are heading towards summer, so I think the infection rate will slow.

Some countries have pretty much defeated the Chy-na Virus. They did that through strict social distancing. You just need to look at the statistics coming out of Australia, South Korea, Singapore etc etc to see that it is possible.

In Australia's case it has been done without a universal lock down. But it will be interesting to see what happens to Australia as it heads into winter.

As foe a pilot shortage, once it's all over, I think the airlines will have a lot of work clearing the massive back log. The shortage could be even more severe, because thousands of pilots have decided to bring forward their retirements. So in effect, you have retirements and no training to replace them.



And it only takes 4-5 days to make the outlook grim again


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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:23 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I read today that the 4000 bed hospital, put together at the London Excel, had 19 patients in over the Easter holiday.


Here's a source to confirm that:

"London’s Nightingale hospital has remained largely empty, with just 19 patients being treated at the facility over the Easter weekend, HSJ understands."

https://www.hsj.co.uk/service-design/ex ... 98.article


Another recent article in the same journal for healthcare workers informs us:

NHS hospitals have four times more empty beds than normal

https://www.hsj.co.uk/acute-care/nhs-ho ... Wg.twitter

Hmm … I thought according to all the media hype hospitals were being overwhelmed with this new black death.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:28 pm

You can get 14,000 cases a week (I.e. 2000 cases per day) during a bad flu epidemic in Singapore:

https://www.asiaone.com/health/flu-seas ... k-december

600 cases in one day is, relatively speaking, not huge.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Kikapu » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:42 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I read today that the 4000 bed hospital, put together at the London Excel, had 19 patients in over the Easter holiday.


Here's a source to confirm that:

"London’s Nightingale hospital has remained largely empty, with just 19 patients being treated at the facility over the Easter weekend, HSJ understands."

https://www.hsj.co.uk/service-design/ex ... 98.article


Another recent article in the same journal for healthcare workers informs us:

NHS hospitals have four times more empty beds than normal

https://www.hsj.co.uk/acute-care/nhs-ho ... Wg.twitter

Hmm … I thought according to all the media hype hospitals were being overwhelmed with this new black death.


Tim, is it possible the high rate of daily deaths which started recently in the UK is making more beds available for the next potential patient who will also die in short time because of this deadly “black death” virus?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:55 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I read today that the 4000 bed hospital, put together at the London Excel, had 19 patients in over the Easter holiday.


Here's a source to confirm that:

"London’s Nightingale hospital has remained largely empty, with just 19 patients being treated at the facility over the Easter weekend, HSJ understands."

https://www.hsj.co.uk/service-design/ex ... 98.article


Another recent article in the same journal for healthcare workers informs us:

NHS hospitals have four times more empty beds than normal

https://www.hsj.co.uk/acute-care/nhs-ho ... Wg.twitter

Hmm … I thought according to all the media hype hospitals were being overwhelmed with this new black death.


Tim, is it possible the high rate of daily deaths which started recently in the UK is making more beds available for the next potential patient who will also die in short time because of this deadly “black death” virus?


OK, so why is the 4,000-bed hospital specially constructed for corona virus patients virtually empty?

You strike me as being an inelligent, educated, rational person. So, please could you help me to understand something. On average, influenza kills 650,00 people (almost all aged people with other health conditions) worldwide each year. That is far more than the death toll for the so-caled "new black death." Never, ever during an influenza epidemic, the like of which happens every couple of years, has the media more or less stopped functioning apart from churning out one overdramatised report after another about the flu which seems to have the purpose in mind of inspiring terror among the populace to the extent that absolutely nothing else goes reported, has more or less the entire population of the world been placed under house arrest,have hard-won fundamenal democratic rights been annulled and has the whole global economy been shut down in a way that will probably trigger a great depression that may last for years. If this doesn't happen for the flu, which kills more people, why does it happen for this strain of the coronavirus that is being branded in a clever, professional psyop to be the "new black death" which has not yet killed anything near the same number of people and looks now to be on the verge of peaking?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:55 pm

CrookedRiverGuy wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I'm a little more positive than you.

The US and Europe are heading towards summer, so I think the infection rate will slow.

Some countries have pretty much defeated the Chy-na Virus. They did that through strict social distancing. You just need to look at the statistics coming out of Australia, South Korea, Singapore etc etc to see that it is possible.

In Australia's case it has been done without a universal lock down. But it will be interesting to see what happens to Australia as it heads into winter.

As foe a pilot shortage, once it's all over, I think the airlines will have a lot of work clearing the massive back log. The shortage could be even more severe, because thousands of pilots have decided to bring forward their retirements. So in effect, you have retirements and no training to replace them.



And it only takes 4-5 days to make the outlook grim again


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Well that's all very sad...They were showing so much promise.

However, I would still back them to turn this around. they are plucky bastards those Singaporeans. Write them off at your peril.

There seems to be so much contrast between countries with a couple showing extreme success, others doing ok, and Europe, and USA getting raped hard. It's hard to work out why this is so.

It still leaves South Korea and Australia as the 2 beacons of light.

Chy-na just admitted today that it massaged the books and that there are actually 40% more deaths than it reported. I say haha to that bullshit. If anyone believes that it's just the 40% they kept hidden, they are dreaming.

They probably have millions of cases they are not telling us. Chy-na has a lot to answer for in this crisis. they screwed the entire world over and they should be held accountable for it.

Whilst the likes of YOU are displaying your Trump derangement Syndrome since the day he was elected, trying like hell to bring him down, Chi Chi Peanut the arsehole is getting away with blue murder.The saving grace for Trump is that he is saying all the things the majority of Americans believe. Which is why he will get re-elected. He is going after those who are responsible for all this shit.

I will tell you this. If Trump was transplanted in Australia, he would be elected as our PM. we would be very happy to have him, and we already have our own PM which we are also happy with because that guy has pulled us through a disastrous 6 months and passed with flying colours.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:10 pm

Friggin Chy-nese just announced 1300 deaths today when the day before they had 0 deaths.

And the CCP came out saying they have 40% more deaths. My friggin ass!

Vromoshili! :roll:

So there you go people. Kamaroste tous!

alert Wuhan (China), the epicenter of the pandemic, today reported 1,290 additional deaths that had not been previously counted and reported, bringing the total number of deaths in Wuhan from 2,579 to 3,869, an increase of 50%, as the result of a revision by the Wuhan New Coronary Pneumonia Epidemic Prevention and Control. As part of this revision, 325 additional cases in Wuhan were also added. Separately, China's National Health Commission (NHC) reported 26 new cases (and no deaths) in its daily report
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby CrookedRiverGuy » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:32 pm

You really lost it

Paphitis wrote:They probably have millions of cases they are not telling us. Chy-na has a lot to answer for in this crisis. they screwed the entire world over and they should be held accountable for it.

Whilst the likes of YOU are displaying your Trump derangement Syndrome since the day he was elected, trying like hell to bring him down, Chi Chi Peanut the arsehole is getting away with blue murder.



You really believe the Chinese set of this to destroy the world, they just made sure to loose millions of their own before releasing it, BUT still hiding it? :roll: :roll:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Kikapu » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:35 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I read today that the 4000 bed hospital, put together at the London Excel, had 19 patients in over the Easter holiday.


Here's a source to confirm that:

"London’s Nightingale hospital has remained largely empty, with just 19 patients being treated at the facility over the Easter weekend, HSJ understands."

https://www.hsj.co.uk/service-design/ex ... 98.article


Another recent article in the same journal for healthcare workers informs us:

NHS hospitals have four times more empty beds than normal

https://www.hsj.co.uk/acute-care/nhs-ho ... Wg.twitter

Hmm … I thought according to all the media hype hospitals were being overwhelmed with this new black death.


Tim, is it possible the high rate of daily deaths which started recently in the UK is making more beds available for the next potential patient who will also die in short time because of this deadly “black death” virus?


OK, so why is the 4,000-bed hospital specially constructed for corona virus patients virtually empty?

You strike me as being an inelligent, educated, rational person. So, please could you help me to understand something. On average, influenza kills 650,00 people (almost all aged people with other health conditions) worldwide each year. That is far more than the death toll for the so-caled "new black death." Never, ever during an influenza epidemic, the like of which happens every couple of years, has the media more or less stopped functioning apart from churning out one overdramatised report after another about the flu which seems to have the purpose in mind of inspiring terror among the populace to the extent that absolutely nothing else goes reported, has more or less the entire population of the world been placed under house arrest,have hard-won fundamenal democratic rights been annulled and has the whole global economy been shut down in a way that will probably trigger a great depression that may last for years. If this doesn't happen for the flu, which kills more people, why does it happen for this strain of the coronavirus that is being branded in a clever, professional psyop to be the "new black death" which has not yet killed anything near the same number of people and looks now to be on the verge of peaking?


I will give you one simple answer Tim because I’m just an average guy. Yes, many more people die from other flu related causes so far, mainly the elderly and not much can be done to stop it other than the precautions already given to them with shots.

The Coronavirus is a highly contagious infectious hidden disease that can infect anyone at anytime one comes to contact with which is deadly to some, serious to light illness to most no symptoms to others, but yet are carriers without knowing waiting to infect the next person inadvertently. This disease has become a “Russian Roulette” to most of us which can’t be ignored or pushed aside and continue as life as normal until a vaccine is made available. If this virus is not a hoax, then it must be taken seriously, and by all indications, the world has taken it seriously. Yes the economy is taking a hit, but the alternative is potentially for millions to die if left unchecked in which the economy would suffer even worse than now, so the question is begged to be asked, what is your pleasure, bad economy now or bad economy later with potentially millions dead?
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