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Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:17 pm

Get Real! wrote:Personal opinions are also OK, but they must make it clear that’s what they are… without pretending to be “News Networks”.

It’s all about the DECEPTION that some individuals on YouTube, are engaging in!

DECEPTION comes in many forms such as a LOGO, artwork, an "about" section and such... PRETENDING to be a legitimate and licensed body of some sort when they are nothing but personal opinion by amateurs!


The discussions presented in my video, which I repeat was no conspiracist video or pushing any particular agenda like you do, were never presented as facts.

The Sky news video I posted however, was a lot less forgiving. As far as they are concerned, WHO has many questions to answer and have compromised their integrity.

You can't go on the one hand criticize a world government like Trump for not acting quick enough when WHO acted even slower and even portrayed Chy-na centric policies to protect and safeguard the Chy-nese economy and the CCP. All this stuff happened and if it wasn't for that, we would not have the problems we are seeing today because Chy-na Virus could have been isolated to a single Chy-nese province.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:23 pm

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Tim, do you really believe that this virus is a houx and that people are not dying from it? If so, please state it for the record. Thanks.


I am not quite sure why you are creating this bizarre straw man. No, that is not what I am saying at all. There is a virus going round that has been named Covid-19 and according to official figures, which there is plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest are skewed, has been responsible for 1,981,239 cases and 126,681 deaths globally so far. It is NOT a hoax!

As I have said ad naseum, I have found the explanations made by German pulmonologist Wolfgang Wodarg to be especially helpful, and surely someone who lectures in lung diseases at a German university can be considered to have some idea at least of what he is talking about. I am puzzled at the reluctance of people here and elsewhere to go an access information first hand from eminent scholars in their field. If you have an hour to spend, I can't recommend the interview with John Ioannidis, a professor of medicine, epidemiology, and population health at Stanford University, on the issue too much (I have linked to it above) - you surely can't say that he has no idea about the issue. Basically, viruses and humans have co-existed ever since humans have walked the planet. These viruses go round every winter. About 15% of them are usually coronaviruses. They provoke a reaction from the immune system which causes the symptoms of what are populary known as colds and the flu and other such "bugs". In actual fact we are reacting to a different virus each time and once we have recovered from that virus we become immune to it. However, the viruses undergo mutation and, occasionally, jump from species to species and so new forms come back each winter and the cycle repeats itself. These viruses do better in the winter because the sun produces vitamin D in people which strengthens the immune system and also the viruses don't like ultraviolet light and also people spend more time outdoors in less close proximity in the summer which makes it harder for the virus to spread. Sadly, some of these viruses create much harsher symptoms than others and they take a toll of the old and the sick as they pass. Nature is cruel, we are all mortal and there is nothing we can do about it but just accept the fact that everyone will die of something one day. For example, the virus that caused what was known as the "Hong Kong Flu" in 1968 was especially destructive and was estimated to have claimed 1-4 million lives:

https://www.britannica.com/event/Hong-Kong-flu-of-1968

In short, what is happening now with this virus, which is still having a miniscule effect compared to the flu of 1968 in terms of death numbers, is nothing out of the realm of the unusual. A particularly bad virus has always gone round every decade or so and always will do so. Of course, the sick must be treated and those at risk protected. However, there is no need to respond in a way that is totally out of proportion. There is no need for the global media to suddenly stop reporting any news and turn into 24/7 machines for instilling panic in the population. The whole global economy was not shut down and people's most fundamental rights were not usurped at the time of the Hong Kong flu in 1968, nor should this happen today. This is my point.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:26 pm

There’s nothing wrong with the Sky News video you posted… we all know them, but the previous one.. oh my goodness! :)
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:29 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
In short, what is happening now with this virus, which is still having a miniscule effect compared to the flu of 1968 in terms of death numbers, is nothing out of the realm of the unusual. A particularly bad virus has always gone round every decade or so and always will do so. Of course, the sick must be treated and those at risk protected. However, there is no need to respond in a way that is totally out of proportion. There is no need for the global media to suddenly stop reporting any news and turn into 24/7 machines for instilling panic in the population. The whole global economy was not shut down and people's most fundamental rights were not usurped at the time of the Hong Kong flu in 1968, nor should this happen today. This is my point.



Excellent points well made.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:30 pm

Get Real! wrote:There’s nothing wrong with the Sky News video you posted… we all know them, but the previous one.. oh my goodness! :)


My previous one was 100 times better than any of your sources about the US BIO attack against the world and itself! :roll:

And let me tell you get Real, I sometimes rely on alternative media for information. The video I posted was an interview of a renowned economist.

I also place a lot more credence on interviews such as the one's posted by Tim Drayton than anything the establishment media has to say, including Sky news.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:34 pm

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C'mon get Real. This is another source owned by Rupert Murdoch. Only the biggest media empire in the world.

Tucker, who I do like personally, because he touches the stuff others in the MSM dare not touch.

And he don't like Chy-na. In fact anti Chy-na sentiment globally is through the roof.

According to your metric, FOX News is the Rolls Royce in news.

Now that we have established that FOX News meets your approval, I can now post 100 video sources saying exactly the same things about WHO as all my other sources.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:40 pm

Paphitis wrote:C'mon get Real. This is another source owned by Rupert Murdoch. Only the biggest media empire in the world.

Tucker, who I do like personally, because he touches the stuff others in the MSM dare not touch.

And he don't like Chy-na. In fact anti Chy-na sentiment globally is through the roof.

According to your metric, FOX News is the Rolls Royce in news.

Now that we have established that FOX News meets your approval, I can now post 100 video sources saying exactly the same things about WHO as all my other sources.

Fox News is also legit… I may not agree with them but they are licensed and accountable, so they do satisfy my basic prerequisites as a “mouthpiece”.

So as you can see we already have a mountain of differing BUT LEGITIMATE news to go through every day, without introducing YouTube JUNK NEWS into the equation!

So can we just stick to legit news networks?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:48 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:C'mon get Real. This is another source owned by Rupert Murdoch. Only the biggest media empire in the world.

Tucker, who I do like personally, because he touches the stuff others in the MSM dare not touch.

And he don't like Chy-na. In fact anti Chy-na sentiment globally is through the roof.

According to your metric, FOX News is the Rolls Royce in news.

Now that we have established that FOX News meets your approval, I can now post 100 video sources saying exactly the same things about WHO as all my other sources.

Fox News is also legit… I may not agree with them but they are licensed and accountable, so they do satisfy my basic prerequisites as a “mouthpiece”.

So as you can see we already have a mountain of differing BUT LEGITIMATE news to go through every day, without introducing YouTube JUNK NEWS into the equation!

So can we just stick to legit news networks?


Not if 'legit news networks' = sources you personally approve of... :roll:

There are plenty of excellent sources and bloggers out there that don't have the apparently necessary logo...
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 15, 2020 2:59 pm

My gripe Grumpy is the YouTube propaganda shit…

They have no physical address or phone number (uncontactable and unanswerable), they don’t employ journalists, no satellite broadcasting, not a dollar in overheads, yet they have deceptive names and logos such as... “Asia Today” ...and similar!

That really fucking annoys me because it’s purely 2c propaganda!

Oh and almost always it’s a “colorful” announcer/presenter (dual-citizen) to reflect the targeted country, but with a PERFECT American accent! :lol:
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