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[Get Real!]

OK Grumpy, you can keep getting your “news” from Pete the Plumber and Belinda the Hairdresser’s YouTube channels!

And I'll still be a lot better informed than you...

Yup, and there's the added bonus that Pete the Plumber may live just across the street from you, and you can visit his "news studio" for a coffee!

[Kikapu]

By the way, how is comparing a set of official weekly death statistics, compiled using the same methodology, on a comparable week-by-week basis "comparing oranges and lemons"?

Precisely!

Also, London isn't the whole of the UK - there are some pretty sparsely populated bits if I remember rightly...?

Sure there are, but Sweden's most populated city has about 1 million people at best and then it trickles down to few hundred thousands from there on to the next few large cities.

Yes, lets compare that as to how many cities there are in the UK which has a million population each?

Besides, the Swedes are common sense people and are able to follow suggestions by the government to protect themselves from this virus. I do not recall the Swedish government supporting "herd immunity" much like what the UK was aiming for until they realized they had fucked up and lost precious time, and now the Brits are paying the price.

[Paphitis]

By the way, how is comparing a set of official weekly death statistics, compiled using the same methodology, on a comparable week-by-week basis "comparing oranges and lemons"?

Precisely!

Also, London isn't the whole of the UK - there are some pretty sparsely populated bits if I remember rightly...?

Sure there are, but Sweden's most populated city has about 1 million people at best and then it trickles down to few thousand from there on to the next few large cities.

Yes, lets compare that as to how many cities there are in the UK which has a million population each?

Besides, the Swedes are common sense people and are able to follow suggestions by the government to protect themselves from this virus. I do not recall the Swedish government supporting "herd immunity" much like what the UK was aiming for until they realized they had fucked up and lost precious time, and now the Brits are paying the price.

Herd immunity has been mentioned in quite a number of countries.

In fact, the last I heard from so called experts, is that we might not have a choice if a vaccine is not found in 18 months. And done in a way as to not inundate the Health Systems globally.

[Kikapu]

By the way, how is comparing a set of official weekly death statistics, compiled using the same methodology, on a comparable week-by-week basis "comparing oranges and lemons"?

You are assuming of course that the weather pattern is exactly the same each year, each month, which does have direct results on the elderly with illnesses with the flu. I would say, at least in Switzerland in the areas away from the mountains, we have hardly had the usual winter this year. It has been very mild to say the least and no snow areas close to Zurich.

Tim, do you really believe that this virus is a houx and that people are not dying from it? If so, please state it for the record. Thanks.

I don't think any of the sceptics (I'd include myself in the category) are claiming it is a hoax... What's your name, Erolz...?

We are questioning the scale of the response to the virus and if it is appropriate or necessary... There are still under 150,000 deaths world-wide...

I wish........well, at least some of the time!

[Paphitis]

Paphitis, quit posting JUNK YouTube channel videos like “Valuetainment” <--- What the hell is that?

The name alone speaks volumes! Stick to well-known news networks.

Always click on the logo on the top left, to avoid idiots who have set up a camera at home pretending to be a news network!

That's not junk.

Just because you don't like the content doesn't make it junk.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis, quit posting JUNK YouTube channel videos like “Valuetainment” <--- What the hell is that?

The name alone speaks volumes! Stick to well-known news networks.

Always click on the logo on the top left, to avoid idiots who have set up a camera at home pretending to be a news network!

The ones that have whipped up hysteria world-wide...?

Look, there are REAL NEWS networks that employ journalists and have offices in multiple places around the world, and then there are YouTube bedroom cameras posting FAKE NEWS.

You can easily tell them apart because it’s not a known news logo and there's no physical address.

That's not real news. You are referring to the establishment mainstream media who peddle a LOT of fake news, whereas there are many alternative sources which are trying to open all of our eyes.

Get Real, let me tell you I do not take you seriously because you are peddling some kind of USA BIO conspiracy which I am afraid to say is absolutely insane.

You also seem to peddle this self defeatist ideology that this is Armageddon. let me tell you sunshine, I do not believe the world has been defeated or will be defeated by Chy-na Virus.

The US is in the same boat as all of us and also paying a bigger price than all of us. They are our ally in this fight against Chy-na Virus and let me also tell you that there is a high likelihood that the knock out blow to Chy-na Virus will come from the USA, and if not from USA it will come from Australia, Japan, Germany or Israel.

[Get Real!]

It’s very simple Paphitis…

If it’s not a LICENSED & REGISTERED media network, that is ANSWERABLE to a MEDIA WATCH body of some country out there, then it’s not a news network but an amateur JUNK NEWS YouTube channel!

So news networks having differing opinions is not the problem, but they must be LICENSED & ANSWERABLE/ACCOUNTABLE, and have a physical address.

[Paphitis]

It’s very simple Paphitis…

If it’s not a LICENSED & REGISTERED media network, that is ANSWERABLE to a MEDIA WATCH body of some country out there, then it’s not a news network but an amateur JUNK NEWS YouTube channel!

So news networks having differing opinions is not the problem, but they must be LICENSED & ANSWERABLE/ACCOUNTABLE, and have a physical address.

And the links you gave us with your so called evidence of a US BIO attack did not come from ANY of the established media anywhere, nor are they accountable for the hysterical anti USA rants.

You went to conspiracy sites.

My video wasn't a conspiracy site. It was an intelligent interview of a renowned economist of some international repute who were having an intelligent discussion about WHO and their negligence which was most certainly real. They did not push any agenda or conspiracy but discussed the merits of certain scenarios which is what intelligent people do.

I also posted a YouTube from Sky news which is a media establishment belonging to the biggest Media company in the world - Rupert Murdoch. I trust that meets your approval then because they have offices, channels, and papers in virtually most OECD countries globally. And they were a lot more scathing towards WHO.

[Get Real!]

Personal opinions are also OK, but they must make it clear that’s what they are… without pretending to be “News Networks”.

It’s all about the DECEPTION that some individuals on YouTube, are engaging in!

DECEPTION comes in many forms such as a LOGO, artwork, an "about" section and such... PRETENDING to be a legitimate and licensed body of some sort when they are nothing but the personal opinion of amateurs!

[cyprusgrump]

It’s very simple Paphitis…

If it’s not a LICENSED & REGISTERED media network, that is ANSWERABLE to a MEDIA WATCH body of some country out there, then it’s not a news network but an amateur JUNK NEWS YouTube channel!

So news networks having differing opinions is not the problem, but they must be LICENSED & ANSWERABLE/ACCOUNTABLE, and have a physical address.

The BBC lies almost every day...