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[Get Real!]

And if such antibodies were of any use against Covid-19 we wouldn’t have the problem we have today because herd immunity would’ve happened by now and Covid-19 would’ve been relegated to common flu level… but that’s not happening.

Surely you understand that no country in the world is close to the levels needed to achieve "herd immunity". Look at Sweden. Their chief epidemiologist supported a strategy never to lock down in order to achieve herd immunity, but where did they go since those early days (almost 18 months ago). Their death toll quickly exceeded most other European countries - and where are they now? After all this mess 15% contracted Covid. 15% (on all variants) - far from what is needed!

Yes, I do remember Sweden but it’s no longer 2019!

Take note that Sweden’s medical/science world saw fit back then to expect herd immunity within the first year, and they’d be correct had it been a natural virus!

So my expectation of seeing *some* signs of herd immunity an additional two years after Sweden’s debacle, is not premature.

Of course, I don’t expect herd immunity to ever come to pass with a virus like Covid-19, which is what I’m really highlighting.

[Paphitis]

And if such antibodies were of any use against Covid-19 we wouldn’t have the problem we have today because herd immunity would’ve happened by now and Covid-19 would’ve been relegated to common flu level… but that’s not happening.

Surely you understand that no country in the world is close to the levels needed to achieve "herd immunity". Look at Sweden. Their chief epidemiologist supported a strategy never to lock down in order to achieve herd immunity, but where did they go since those early days (almost 18 months ago). Their death toll quickly exceeded most other European countries - and where are they now? After all this mess 15% contracted Covid. 15% (on all variants) - far from what is needed!

This may be the only option. Swedish Model.

And it's a much more viable option with Omicron and let potent versions of Covid.

[Paphitis]

Oh boy!
Now you demonstrate amnesia to your own posts:
cyprus47300-4280.html?hilit=fallacy#p911947

Also be more careful in posting unreliable links.
Your link says there were 1.67% deaths plus about 12% unrecovered !!

Yes well that's obvious isn't it.

If 100% of people are vaccinated, then obviously 100% of new cases will be vaccinated and 100% of deaths wioll be vaccinated.

My point is, vaccination levels have not resulted in a clear reduction of new covid cases or deaths that can be measurable. Covid has been increasing the whole time.

And the only thing we have as a positive is Omicron and other future versions. The positive is that these versions are less severe, and less people will die. Or so we hope. The big negative is that it spreads more easily. And future variants might be airborne as the bacteria may be able to survive airborne for long periods of time, resulting in infections for merely passing by.

[Get Real!]

"James Kondilios was a healthy 23-year-old and was double-vaccinated..."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/ ... /100740744

[repulsewarrior]

...goats, camels, but mice seem to be the best host for the mutations to have occurred; jumping to humans as the Omicron mutant.

Human to mice, and back to humans; an inter-species infection may be possible.

...suppose another animal was the virus' host, we humans may be lucky with the path taken, for whatever reason, as evolution.

The objective is to protect ourselves and each other so that those who do get ill can be well treated; everyone will eventually become infected in any case.

[Lordo]

"James Kondilios was a healthy 23-year-old and was double-vaccinated..."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/ ... /100740744

Nobody said if somebody is double vaccinated they will not die from Covid. Statistics show that Double and especially trebble vaccinated are less likely to die from covid. They also suffer less if they end up in hospital. This is not black and white.

You can be an expert tavli player and you will winf against a lot of people, but you cannot win against somebody who is very lucky with the dice.

Life is exactly like that. Some people survive better than others because of their DNA. It is called Darwinism.

[repulsewarrior]

...indeed, as a species, Humans are cursed with their reason; trying to survive.

[Lordo]

...indeed, as a species, Humans are cursed with their reason; trying to survive.

And yet we are governed by the same laws as animals and Darwinism applies to us as much as animals.

DNA we have is like a deck of cards. You get a bad set, you have had it.

[repulsewarrior]

...a game you say? Who plays? Even Darwin came to marvel at the science, as that of a creator.

Stress, equal and opposite reactions, indeed what about that, the stress that we impose on Nature; its result? That which is beyond our reason exists in any case, this "new" virus is but one example.

...it may be from a lab, it may be from the blood which runs openly on the streets, either way it says a lot about "us" (as plunderers).

[Get Real!]

"James Kondilios was a healthy 23-year-old and was double-vaccinated..."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-06/ ... /100740744

Nobody said if somebody is double vaccinated they will not die from Covid. Statistics show that Double and especially trebble vaccinated are less likely to die from covid. They also suffer less if they end up in hospital. This is not black and white.

You can be an expert tavli player and you will winf against a lot of people, but you cannot win against somebody who is very lucky with the dice.

Life is exactly like that. Some people survive better than others because of their DNA.

Right... so (1) the jabs can’t protect you from getting infected, and (2) there’s no guarantee that the jabs can prevent your death once infected, and (3) there’s no guarantee that the jab’s short term or long term side-effects won’t kill you either!

So why didn’t you tell me all that before??? Damn, I would’ve been the first in the queue!

It is called Darwinism.

You can say that again!