Pyrpolizer wrote:Had you downloaded the report for week 51, you would have learned the efficacy of all vaccines Vs both Alpha, and Delta. Herebelow their efficacy Vs Delta.
PF starts from 90% and drops down to 70% in 20 weeks
MD starts from 98% and drops down to 90% in 34 weeks!! this is obviously the best, but it's also the most expensive.
AZ starts from 70% and drops down to 40% in 20 weeks.
This efficacy is supported by real time stats.
Of course you already said you don't trust these reports, which by itself ends this discussion.
You also seem to undervalue the damage of this virus. This virus causes pneumonia FCS either mild or fatal. Let aside other damage to other organs. Death is the ultimate damage. I personally estimate deaths+handicaps to more than 2%. That's is a lot!
By what I see around me in Cyprus people who get hospitalized are doomed to get out either dead or handicapped. And it's not only the old, it's also many young people who were perfectly healthy before. There is one guy I talk on the phone, he breaths as if he just run a race. Another woman friend of my wife can't even walk around the block without getting exhausted. Both of them did not get hospitalized and both were unvaccinated when it happened. However their suffering still goes on and they have no idea when they would get back to normal (if ever).
Of course I know much more people who passed the disease as if it were a flu. My wife and the whole family of my daughter including the baby were on Covid from Xmas eve until yesterday. All vaccinated except the baby.
I would only totally agree with you that there are financial interests behind the vaccines, and some high ranking politicians will get out millionaires because of this, but the reality of the virus is still there.
Really? And you are seeing that translate to the numbers found here are you?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/All I see is a relentless onslaught of infections and death which have not gone down at all.
And to make matters worse, there are countries that virtually had near zero covid with 0% vaccinated and now with 90% of the eligible population vaccinated, there are tens of thousands of daily cases and people dieing. And the vast majority ending up in hospital and dieing are vaccinated as is expected when 90% of people are vaccinated. the pool of unvaccinated covid hosts is small.
Vut to indicate some efficacy, you would need more than 10% unvaccinated in hospitals and more than 10% unvaccinated dieing. The real numbers is that there is only a few % unvaccinated that may be more in hospital and dieing. But what is more sinister, is the Government won't give us the background data.
So, if you are lucky, there is some small efficacy with Alpha and Delta, and hardly no efficacy at all with Omicron.
I am of the view that the Government doesn't care anymore. They made the decision to "let it rip" when they opened the borders. As if either they had too much faith in the vaccines, or they are wanted the entire population to get covid and develop herd immunity that way.
