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[Londonrake]

Perhaps you should catch Omicron. If it's as mild as is being reported you might then suffer a cold to bad flu for a couple of weeks. Afterwards, you'd acquire a natural immunity the envy of us all. That, without sacrificing your principled beliefs. No matter how much others might disagree with them.

[Lordo]

Perhaps you should catch Omicron. If it's as mild as is being reported you might then suffer a cold to bad flu for a couple of weeks. Afterwards, you'd acquire a natural immunity the envy of us all. That, without sacrificing your principled beliefs. No matter how much others might disagree with them.

Omicron is our natural vaccine against covid. It effects does not even last a couple of weeks. 3 days it took a friend of mine to get rid of the effects and back to normal. Although it took 12 days before the LFT returned a negative.

[Pyrpolizer]

It’s pretty obvious from the Global Deaths table that these jabs aren’t working…

After so many millions getting jabbed, you’d expect to see significant improvement in deaths but I’m not seeing that…

You can't draw ANY conclusion from such graphs. Simply because the historical number of deaths depend on at least 3 more variables: the spread of the virus, the lock downs, and the vaccines.
But you CAN draw a trend-line from March 8 to March 31 when the deaths increased from zero to 7.5K to find out that without vaccines and without lockdowns we would today probably have millions of daily deaths before reaching the 60% herd immunity.

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This article says 10X higher which imo is a very conservative estimate.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.4731580

[Lordo]

It really is not rocket science. Last January we had no vaccination and this year we have and the difference in the covid death rate speaks volumes.

GR has left his barains somewhere, just as soon as he finds the damn thing, he will see sense again.

[Paphitis]

It’s pretty obvious from the Global Deaths table that these jabs aren’t working…

After so many millions getting jabbed, you’d expect to see significant improvement in deaths but I’m not seeing that…

You can't draw ANY conclusion from such graphs. Simply because the historical number of deaths depend on at least 3 more variables: the spread of the virus, the lock downs, and the vaccines.
But you CAN draw a trend-line from March 8 to March 31 when the deaths increased from zero to 7.5K to find out that without vaccines and without lockdowns we would today probably have millions of daily deaths before reaching the 60% herd immunity.

Untitled.png

This article says 10X higher which imo is a very conservative estimate.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.4731580

It's the lock downs that kept COVID suppressed.

Prime examples, Australia, South Korea and New Zealand were the most locked down countries till only just recently. They had virtually no covid.

Now, all 3 have literally let it rip by lifting lock down. COVID is now prolific. And that is with a 90% vaccination rate of the eligible population.

In the hospitals, 90% of admissions and deaths are vaccinated too. And the government is not releasing that data. This indicates next to negligible efficacy of the current vaccines against Omicron.

There may have been some efficacy against Delta. But, the countries that showed the most success in the past were those countries that locked down very hard. And I mean proper lock down. Such as people unable to enter the country, or even leave the country. Only a handful of countries did that, and it was these countries that had the best results. In fact, Australia was able to wipe out COVID with these measures even when vaccine uptake was at 0%. New Zealand and Korea also. Maybe some other countries as well, like Vietnam which I hear was very successful.

That success has been wiped away because these countries decided to open up when their population was vaccinated. End result was a total disaster. COVID is now rampant in all these countries since they opened up.

Which you can argue that lock down was a waste of time since they were going to open up. You either open up and let it rip with no lock down, or if you decide to lock down, stay locked down.

[Pyrpolizer]

It’s pretty obvious from the Global Deaths table that these jabs aren’t working…

After so many millions getting jabbed, you’d expect to see significant improvement in deaths but I’m not seeing that…

You can't draw ANY conclusion from such graphs. Simply because the historical number of deaths depend on at least 3 more variables: the spread of the virus, the lock downs, and the vaccines.
But you CAN draw a trend-line from March 8 to March 31 when the deaths increased from zero to 7.5K to find out that without vaccines and without lockdowns we would today probably have millions of daily deaths before reaching the 60% herd immunity.

Untitled.png

This article says 10X higher which imo is a very conservative estimate.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.4731580

It's the lock downs that kept COVID suppressed.

Prime examples, Australia, South Korea and New Zealand were the most locked down countries till only just recently. They had virtually no covid.

Now, all 3 have literally let it rip by lifting lock down. COVID is now prolific. And that is with a 90% vaccination rate of the eligible population.

In the hospitals, 90% of admissions and deaths are vaccinated too. And the government is not releasing that data. This indicates next to negligible efficacy of the current vaccines against Omicron.

There may have been some efficacy against Delta. But, the countries that showed the most success in the past were those countries that locked down very hard. And I mean proper lock down. Such as people unable to enter the country, or even leave the country. Only a handful of countries did that, and it was these countries that had the best results. In fact, Australia was able to wipe out COVID with these measures even when vaccine uptake was at 0%. New Zealand and Korea also. Maybe some other countries as well, like Vietnam which I hear was very successful.

That success has been wiped away because these countries decided to open up when their population was vaccinated. End result was a total disaster. COVID is now rampant in all these countries since they opened up.

Which you can argue that lock down was a waste of time since they were going to open up. You either open up and let it rip with no lock down, or if you decide to lock down, stay locked down.

Yes it's a waste of time talking with you. You didn't even understand what I said, and you write too long and unrelated blaber blaber.
As for the efficacy of the vaccines, that's already been discussed, and proven from UK's data
A VACCINATED PERSON HAS 11 TIMES LESS CHANCE TO DIE FROM COVID COMPARED TO AN UNVACCINATED PERSON

[Paphitis]

It’s pretty obvious from the Global Deaths table that these jabs aren’t working…

After so many millions getting jabbed, you’d expect to see significant improvement in deaths but I’m not seeing that…

You can't draw ANY conclusion from such graphs. Simply because the historical number of deaths depend on at least 3 more variables: the spread of the virus, the lock downs, and the vaccines.
But you CAN draw a trend-line from March 8 to March 31 when the deaths increased from zero to 7.5K to find out that without vaccines and without lockdowns we would today probably have millions of daily deaths before reaching the 60% herd immunity.

Untitled.png

This article says 10X higher which imo is a very conservative estimate.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.4731580

It's the lock downs that kept COVID suppressed.

Prime examples, Australia, South Korea and New Zealand were the most locked down countries till only just recently. They had virtually no covid.

Now, all 3 have literally let it rip by lifting lock down. COVID is now prolific. And that is with a 90% vaccination rate of the eligible population.

In the hospitals, 90% of admissions and deaths are vaccinated too. And the government is not releasing that data. This indicates next to negligible efficacy of the current vaccines against Omicron.

There may have been some efficacy against Delta. But, the countries that showed the most success in the past were those countries that locked down very hard. And I mean proper lock down. Such as people unable to enter the country, or even leave the country. Only a handful of countries did that, and it was these countries that had the best results. In fact, Australia was able to wipe out COVID with these measures even when vaccine uptake was at 0%. New Zealand and Korea also. Maybe some other countries as well, like Vietnam which I hear was very successful.

That success has been wiped away because these countries decided to open up when their population was vaccinated. End result was a total disaster. COVID is now rampant in all these countries since they opened up.

Which you can argue that lock down was a waste of time since they were going to open up. You either open up and let it rip with no lock down, or if you decide to lock down, stay locked down.

Yes it's a waste of time talking with you. You didn't even understand what I said...
As for the efficacy of the vaccines, that's already been discussed, and proven from UK's data
FOR EVERY VACCINATED PERSON WHO DIES, THERE ARE 11 MORE UNVACCINATED WHO DIE.

Nothing at all is proven. What is proven is some countries with 0% vaccination had zero covid and now with 90% vaccination rate have thousands of new cases every day and each new case passes it on to 2 people on average. It's a tsunami that can't be stopped now.

The only thing that is proven are the facts on the streets. COVID is rampant. It's just as rampant in the vaccinated as it is the unvaccinated.

Hospitals are filling with people who are vaccinated and they are dieing too.

The who thing is very corrupt.

An example. Australia has made a vaccine which Australia refuses to approve from its TGA, because Pfizer and Moderna have paid millions into political coffers, and yet this vaccine is used in India and Indonesia and I have heard from knowledgeable sources that it is apparently better than Pfizer and Moderna.

And that is only touching the surface when it comes to this fraud and redistribution of money from the poor to the rich.

You bed wetters created this and destroyed our freedoms in the process as well, over a cold that kills 0.37% and decreasing.

[Pyrpolizer]

You should learn to read what's proven from reliable sources rather than making it up.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ce-reports

[Pyrpolizer]

And if you think you are some kind of a hero, would you like to be within that group of 0.37% who die from Covid, or the other group who suffer post covid handicaps which is multiple times as many?
Ask MR-FROM-NG....

[Paphitis]

You should learn to read what's proven from reliable sources rather than making it up.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ce-reports

There is nothing anyone can rely on these days when it comes to COVID - not the UK Government, US Government, AUST Government or EU.

This whole thing now is an industry worth almost 1 Trillion and its a God Send to all Governments and countries.