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[Londonrake]

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... f-covid-19

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[Paphitis]

I have been in southern France since Tuesday with my wife to once again enjoy the Ardèche region along with the planned 34km canoeing down the river Ardèche on Sunday, which will take about 8-9 hours with stops for snacks and swim along the way at our own pace. The place is packed, but the water levels on the river is fairly low.

We have been enjoying the food and the wine. However, I read this morning that as of next a Monday, ALL restaurants and coffee places which seats more than 50 people, regardless inside our outside, customers would need to show their vaccination certificates to be seated and served. We are departing on Tuesday driving back to Switzerland, though we are fully vaccinated. So, it is going to happen everywhere gradually that no vaccination, no service or perhaps no vaccination, no job.

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Maybe.

But they will find it pretty hard to do in Australia. Our courts will have something to say about if people are restricted from earning a living. It is a gross violation of human rights as far as I am concerned.

They have wanted to mandate this for all frontline health workers in Australia. But many female nurses have refused because they are either pregnant or want to get pregnant soon and start a family.

When faced with such an argument, it would be a hard thing to combat in a court of law. See, that's the thing with our Judges. They will undoubtedly side with the nurse.

Just today, the Feds have ruled out travel passports or vaccine passports. But as for employers, they said it's up to each business to set their own rules. But as soon as some start losing jobs, the courts will start to fill up. It will be mandatory in the military.

It will only make matters worse in my opinion if they force people and restrict their employment.

I believe their best bet is to just vaccinate as many people as possible - hopefully more than 80%. Then just open everything up and see what happens. If people start to die, then just advertise on TV and start massive vaccination education programs on MSM.

20% of our over 80s have refused the vaccine. So I guess that demographic will sadly be dropping like flies. But when that starts to happen, hopefully it scares the rest to finally vaccinate.

I can't understand myself why anyone over 60 would not vaccinate anyway.

I can almost understand a 20 year old though. I mean, the death rate among the young and healthy is extremely low so these people will be ok, vaccine or no vaccine, But someone over 80? That's just plain silly.

As a people, we do need to protect our rights. One day this COVID will be gone. But if we lose our freedoms and rights, it will be very hard to get them back. The Americans are lucky because US Constitution. We are not so protected in Australia. We just have laws which the parliament can change. And I bet they won't be changing them back that easy.

International Travel will be almost impossible without a vaccination. So that is a hefty restriction in itself which will eventually get many people.

When people start to die though, I think this will persuade people eventually and vaccine rates well beyond 80% will be achieved, if not 90%. It will just take a bit of convincing for some people and time.

At the end of the day, I'm looking forward to see the end of lock downs. So the sooner we get to 70% and then 80%, the better.

That's if our Government is being honest with us. And some of the things they say have been quite sketchy and shady to say the least. And today when they said it's up to each employer, we all know they are just passing the buck so they don't get the blame for it. It's actually appalling leadership by Morrisson. He should either say that will not be allowed, or mandate it through parliament. At least he is showing some leadership and fortitude. Passing the buck isn't cool...

[Paphitis]

And just for everyone's info, I am extremely pro vaccination.

I'm looking forward to next month when our Pfizer imports ramp up to 2 million doses each week. i hope we are able to administer all 2 million of them each week as well as the Moderna vaccines that will also start to come in.

Hoping that we go from 1.3 million administered per week, to well over 2 million as we have some catching up to do.

We have only vaccinated 17% of our population so far. But we are starting to hit our straps now.

We should have been at 60% by now. We will get there though.

Wehave something like 52 million Astra Zeneca which we can make. They plan to donate those to Indonesia, Timor, PNG, Fiji, Cook Islands and some other small states next month. So that's a good deed done by AusGov.

[Kikapu]

France
Top court rules France's Covid-19 'health pass' complies with constitution

Issued on: 05/08/2021 - 16:22

France's top constitutional authority on Thursday approved a Covid pass that limits access to cafes, restaurants and inter-city trains and planes to people who have been vaccinated or tested negative for the virus.

The controversial pass has sparked mass protests, with critics accusing President Emmanuel Macron of running a health "dictatorship".

But the Constitutional Court said the restrictions voted by parliament last month represented a "balanced trade-off" between public health concerns and personal freedom.


https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 ... nstitution

[erolz66]

And just for everyone's info, I am extremely pro vaccination.

but I do understand that the vaccines will not kill COVID, and it will not elliminate death. and in some cases, will cause more death than COVID ever will in some countries.

One such country, is Australia.

[Londonrake]

US now averaging 100,000 new COVID-19 infections a day

“Our models show that if we don’t (vaccinate people), we could be up to several hundred thousand cases a day, similar to our surge in early January,” Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Rochelle Walensky said on CNN this week.

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/northamerica/ ... np1taskbar

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[CrookedRiverGuy]

US now averaging 100,000 new COVID-19 infections a day

“Our models show that if we don’t (vaccinate people), we could be up to several hundred thousand cases a day, similar to our surge in early January,” Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Rochelle Walensky said on CNN this week.

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/northamerica/ ... np1taskbar

It would have been very fruitful to see a breakdown on these numbers on vaccinated vs non-vaccinated. As I understand the vaccinated is being contaminated too, however mostly with a less serious development

[Lordo]

on the 5th of August, there was 10,224 deaths from covid in the USA.

[Londonrake]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/110 ... americans/

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[Lordo]

It seems a picture is emerging vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

An Alabama state health official on Friday revealed that nearly all of the COVID-19 deaths in the state were among people who were not vaccinated against the virus.




https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/566832-unvaccinated-account-for-nearly-all-covid-19-deaths-in-alabama-health