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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:56 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The biggest of which only recently in the 20th Century, was WW2. We lost over 30 million people. Entire countries were carpet bombed, there was a tragic holocaust and the nuclear destruction of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

:roll: Countless places and people on the planet were completely unaffected by either WWI or WWII, but that is not the case with Covid!

ie: Latin America didn’t even bat an eyelid over either of these “world” wars! (The expression is metaphorical, there was no world war)

In fact nothing from the past comes anywhere near what we are experiencing today, which is 100% on the global scale.

There is not a single human who has not been affected by this pandemic.
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Like I said, you just don’t seem to have a grasp on what’s happening…


I understand that. Covid can spread everywhere but at the same time we need to keep it in perspective.

Covid will not wipe us out. But sure, it will kill many people more and effect livelihoods. The economic fallout will effect generations. But we have had that too in the Great Depression of the 1930s. We got over that and we will get over this as well.

I can’t wait till it’s over. The sooner the better. I can move on to the next phase of my life. So you can imagine how I’m hoping the vaccines are the solution. I just feel that it will take a bit more time however but eventually we will overcome it.

My point is, Covid isn’t the doomsday event that will wipe him any clean off the face. It may kill many millions but humanity will move on like it always does.

The analogy though is incorrect. Almost the entire industrial output of Europe was destroyed in WW2. The populations in Latin America were probably still ploughing fields in those days.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:17 am

Paphitis wrote:Covid will not wipe us out.

You cannot be making such sweeping statements for two reasons:

1. You do not have a crystal ball.

2. Covid, certainly DOES have the potential to wipe out humanity.

Repeated attacks on one’s respiratory system will eventually lead to death, so Covid MUST be wiped out if such an eventuality is to be prevented.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:50 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Covid will not wipe us out.

You cannot be making such sweeping statements for two reasons:

1. You do not have a crystal ball.

2. Covid, certainly DOES have the potential to wipe out humanity.

Repeated attacks on one’s respiratory system will eventually lead to death, so Covid MUST be wiped out if such an eventuality is to be prevented.


Oh ok. No problem! :roll:

For crying out loud, we have had some 190 million reported cases with 4 million of them dieing.

So already 186 million people are in the clear as survivors, most of which had no serious symptoms.

Even if 7.5 billion of us get it, only about 2% will die. That’s the bottom line worse case scenario. Ergo, humanity moves on.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:12 pm

Here’s what’s really happening to your 186 million who supposedly recovered:

Initial lung functionality: In the range of 85%..95%

Lung functionality after first contraction of Covid: In the range of 70%..85%

Lung functionality after second contraction of Covid: In the range of 50%..70%

And so forth with every infection...

Unfortunately, scarred cells do not heal themselves in people who are past maturity.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 1:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:Here’s what’s really happening to your 186 million who supposedly recovered:

Initial lung functionality: In the range of 85%..95%

Lung functionality after first contraction of Covid: In the range of 70%..85%

Lung functionality after second contraction of Covid: In the range of 50%..70%

And so forth with every infection...


We are all going to die. Unless you saying that this process of continual degradation is ultimately going to lead to the death of everyone before they reach puberty and can procreate, then it is not an argument for species extinction is it ? Just saying really.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Lordo » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:43 pm

Lets face it, I don't know where GR got his info from but it is full of shit. There is no such trend.

The trend is that out of millions who have been infected, very few have contracted it a second time, the chances are it is a variant rather than the original and certainly the effects are not more severe but less. It was known quite early on that the vaccine would not prevent people cathing it again but it would reduce the severity of the effects. If a person is already suffering from respiratory problems that may well be different.

Even if it killed a lot more than 1, 2 or even 5% of people, there is no way nmankind would be wiped out, even if only 1% survive they wil lrepopulate the earth in anycase. Darwin's evolution theory in practice.

Here is a bit of info worth reading.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/11/more-people-are-getting-covid-19-twice-suggesting-immunity-wanes-quickly-some
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:37 pm

At the crux of the problem is a formulated ever-changing virus so not even any studies from two months ago are of any value anymore.

This ever changing chaos is adding more and more unknowns into the equation thus expanding the complexity of the problem.

As time goes by it’ll gradually go from one virus to a family of viruses and each will have their own unique traits in terms of infectiousness, potency, and so on.

I understand your need to be comforted but with an ever increasing array of Corona-based respiratory-infecting viruses popping up like mushrooms, there’s little room and little time for bollocks!
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Lordo » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:22 pm

Get Real! wrote:At the crux of the problem is a formulated ever-changing virus so not even any studies from two months ago are of any value anymore.

This ever changing chaos is adding more and more unknowns into the equation thus expanding the complexity of the problem.

As time goes by it’ll gradually go from one virus to a family of viruses and each will have their own unique traits in terms of infectiousness, potency, and so on.

I understand your need to be comforted but with an ever increasing array of Corona-based respiratory-infecting viruses popping up like mushrooms, there’s little room and little time for bollocks!

GR stop talking crap. Covid is not fotmulated, it is natural. It exists in the wild as do so many others we have yet not come into contact yet. Who knows what else is in some forests as no human has yet stepped foot in them.

We have exact same issue with the Flu virus. The vaccination given is never the correct one because by the time it gets to us it is a different variant. They know it but they still vacinate as it seems to help. As yet even though I am entitled to flu vaccination each year I refuse it, not because of some ultirior motive but I prefer it to be given to those who need it most. So far I have not had bad experiences with the flu virus. Long may it continue. And I am nearly 90 right? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Lordo » Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:32 pm

Lets Covid is not the first covid that we have had. There are 7 of them. Two of which were SARS and MERS. The others were not so dangerous.

Enjoy.

CoVID-19 is short for Coronavirus Disease 2019 - in other words, the disease caused by a novel coronavirus that was first positively identified in December 2019. It was named using a system developed by the WHO. More details here: WHO best practices for naming of new human infectious diseases

Previous coronavirus diseases with serious symptoms used idiosyncratic names:

SARS - Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome (first identified in 2003, causative agent is the SARS coronavirus or SARS-CoV)
MERS - Middle-East Respiratory Syndrome (identified in 2012, caused by MERS-related coronavirus or MERS-CoV)

and there are also four other human coronaviruses which cause disease; those four are sufficiently mild and therefore not of public interest that they’re generally known by the scientific name of the virus itself, such as HCoV-OC43 which is one of the viruses which causes the common cold.

Some people - like White House advisor Kellyanne Conway - have suggested that CoVID-19 is the 19th coronavirus disease, but this is entirely incorrect. There are seven human coronaviruses known to be pathogenic, and another dozen or so known to cause diseases in various animals, but the fact that adds up to 19 (give or take a couple of sub-strains of animal coronaviruses) is nothing to do with the naming scheme.

https://www.quora.com/What-happened-to-the-other-18-COVIDs-that-came-before-COVID-19-Why-didnt-they-cause-a-pandemic
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