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[Maximus]

Im not vaccinated yet,

I would rather increase my chances of survival with the vaccine.

I also think it is reasonable to restrict the movement of the un-vaccinated because the chances of them getting seriously ill and dying is 5x greater than the vaccinated.

no bother to me if some people want to play the Darwin lottery but they want to play on the behalf of other people as well.

[Get Real!]

Im not vaccinated yet,

I would rather increase my chances of survival with the vaccine.

I also think it is reasonable to restrict the movement of the un-vaccinated because the chances of them getting seriously ill and dying is 5x greater than the vaccinated.

no bother to me if some people want to play the Darwin lottery but they want to play on the behalf of other people as well.

I suggest you wait till September when v2.0 will be out.

The Darwin lottery was when millions rushed to get the v1.0 jabs and over 2 million people won a Darwin award!

[Paphitis]

No matter what the case may be, the proof will be in the pudding in about 12 months time, when some countries would be close to 100% vaccination levels. If there is a relapse in these countries, then what will that tell us then?

lets take a country like Australia,

25 million people, 100% vaccinated, no more lock downs.

80% of them will unlikely get infected.

20% of them will. that is 5 million people.

of those 5 million people, 5% of them will get seriously ill.

That is 250,000 people.

Of these people 2 of them will die. based on a covid mortality rate of 8 per million when fully vaccinated.

We are about 11% fully vaccinated. 30% have had one jab.

We are far from fully vaccinated.

However, from the stats coming out now, the vaccination is going into the next phase as we are getting 1 million Pfizer each week.

Problem in Australia, like Cyprus and other countries, is that vaccination hesitancy is at very high levels.

What has worked in Australia are the extreme lock down conditions. Yes they are quite extreme.

[Paphitis]

Pay attention to America’s new motto…

“It’s the pandemic of the unvaccinated"

So basically, if you’re one of the vaccinated… you get awarded with a “safe pass” because you will not infect other people or get infected yourself!

And that is the stupid MYTH they are actually propagating!

With such irresponsible and disastrous handling of the pandemic, we don’t stand a chance surviving it!

NB: That stupid irresponsible bitch is the director of the Centers for Disease Control!

I don’t think that’s their motto.

There are a lot of experts in the US who fully understand what the world is facing. And that the vaccination will not stop Covid. What we do not know yet is how much and for how long these vaccines will reduce symptoms. Or even if they do reduce symptoms on their own accord.

We have already been told in Australia that the entire population will need vaccination shots every 6 months.

[Londonrake]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... cdh-report

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[Kikapu]

Here’s a synopsis of what’s happened so that even the dumbest among you can understand:

There is a bio-weapon on the loose on the planet, and the major protagonists (as hard as they’ve tried) are unable to contain it.

The rushed “vaccines” they have distributed among nations have proven an abysmal failure but they have no other solution and are completely lost.

The only strategy they’ve got is… “keep vaccinating” even though they can see it is utterly useless, and even fatal for some people.

Many authorities the world around, even admitted that even if the vaccine was to be effective it would only do so for a very short period of time due to the virus’ ever-changing nature; constant morphing is a trait to be expected by lab-engineered viruses.

In other words... if you were jabbed 3 months ago any effectiveness would expire around about now.

Well, not only has everyone’s jab expired or almost expired… but there was no effectiveness in the first place either!


Who still doesn’t get it?

When I put on my Conspiracy hat on, I can easily agree with everything GR has written above, but be that may be, even if everything GR has written above is true, Human nature will try to find a solution to survive, even if the vaccines are not perfect science or that they only have a limited effect on the ever mutating coronavirus. The question needs to be asked is, what choice do we have but to try anything and everything to find the treatment to reduce the risks as much as possible?

We have been fighting many diseases for long time with limited successes, but we have not stopped in trying to reduce the death numbers. Cancer comes to mind. Coronavirus may well be the Doomsday weapon which might destroy life on earth as we know it, especially to all air breathing creatures on land with those in close contact to each other in a communal settings or even with those which live in solitary, but meet for mating only.

When your boat is sinking, or you think it is sinking, you jump into your life raft. In some cases, some may jump into their life rafts prematurely and end up in worse situation than had they remained on their boats. The 1979 Fastnet Race disaster comes to mind in such scenario. Time will tell where we will end up with Covid-19.

[Paphitis]

Here’s a synopsis of what’s happened so that even the dumbest among you can understand:

There is a bio-weapon on the loose on the planet, and the major protagonists (as hard as they’ve tried) are unable to contain it.

The rushed “vaccines” they have distributed among nations have proven an abysmal failure but they have no other solution and are completely lost.

The only strategy they’ve got is… “keep vaccinating” even though they can see it is utterly useless, and even fatal for some people.

Many authorities the world around, even admitted that even if the vaccine was to be effective it would only do so for a very short period of time due to the virus’ ever-changing nature; constant morphing is a trait to be expected by lab-engineered viruses.

In other words... if you were jabbed 3 months ago any effectiveness would expire around about now.

Well, not only has everyone’s jab expired or almost expired… but there was no effectiveness in the first place either!


Who still doesn’t get it?

When I put on my Conspiracy hat on, I can easily agree with everything GR has written above, but be that may be, even if everything GR has written above is true, Human nature will try to find a solution to survive, even if the vaccines are not perfect science or that they only have a limited effect on the ever mutating coronavirus. The question needs to be asked is, what choice do we have but to try anything and everything to find the treatment to reduce the risks as much as possible?

We have been fighting many diseases for long time with limited successes, but we have not stopped in trying to reduce the death numbers. Cancer comes to mind. Coronavirus may well be the Doomsday weapon which might destroy life on earth as we know it, especially to all air breathing creatures on land with those in close contact to each other in a communal settings or even with those which live in solitary, but meet for mating only.

When your boat is sinking, or you think it is sinking, you jump into your life raft. In some cases, some may jump into their life rafts prematurely and end up in worse situation than had they remained on their boats. The 1979 Fastnet Race disaster comes to mind in such scenario. Time will tell where we will end up with Covid-19.

Even if worse comes to worse, COVID is hardly the doomsday disease that will decimate humanity as we know it.

Worst that can happen is millions will die. But humanity as a whole will continue and thrive.

And eventually, given our technology and science, COVID will be beaten. It’s cancer that will probably remain elusive. But treatments will improve there as well.

In the end, humans have got to die of something.

Covid will be a blimp in our history. Lasting for another 2 to 5 years probably. After that it will remain with us. But our body may develop some form of immunity over time. Then we will learn to live with it like we do with influenza.

[Get Real!]

Even if worse comes to worse, COVID is hardly the doomsday disease that will decimate humanity as we know it.

How can you not call it a doomsday disease when it has already…

Killed over 4 million people, maimed countless others, ruined millions of households, ruined entire economies, trashed global liberties, and has profoundly affected every single aspect of our existence in just over a year?

You don’t seem to have a grasp on reality!

[Paphitis]

Even if worse comes to worse, COVID is hardly the doomsday disease that will decimate humanity as we know it.

How can you not call it a doomsday disease when it has already…

Killed over 4 million people, maimed countless others, ruined millions of households, ruined entire economies, trashed global liberties, and has profoundly affected every single aspect of our existence in just over a year?

You don’t seem to have a grasp on reality!

Humanity has always endured horrific tragedy thropughout the centuries.

The biggest of which only recently in the 20th Century, was WW2. We lost over 30 million people. Entire countries were carpet bombed, there was a tragic holocaust and the nuclear destruction of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

We endured that, and we will no doubt endure and prevail over COVID.

Even if it goes for years and kills 30 million of us, or even 200 million, the rest of mankind will move on and go on.

BTW, I believe COVID has killed way more than 4 million. Try at least 8 million, maybe even 10 million or more. So many people are dieing and not being reported, especually in poor impoverished countries. Other countries not reporting true numbers. Not every country is transparent in our world. We have 4 million reported COVID deaths. How many unreported deaths is anyone's guess.

[Get Real!]

The biggest of which only recently in the 20th Century, was WW2. We lost over 30 million people. Entire countries were carpet bombed, there was a tragic holocaust and the nuclear destruction of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

Countless places and people on the planet were completely unaffected by either WWI or WWII, but that is not the case with Covid!

ie: Latin America didn’t even bat an eyelid over either of these “world” wars! (The expression is metaphorical, there was no world war)

In fact nothing from the past comes anywhere near what we are experiencing today, which is 100% on the global scale.

There is not a single human who has not been affected by this pandemic.

Like I said, you just don’t seem to have a grasp on what’s happening…