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[Lordo]

It’s a matter of time before I too catch Covid and will probably die from it due to my underlying issues.

As I won’t be able to say goodbye while ill or after I’m dead, please accept this short premature post as my final words to the forum.

Having accomplished all the major things I wanted in life, I will happily exit this planet of fools of which I am most tired.

My only concern is my little wife who will have to deal with the loss of her best friend, and for that I have no solution or cure.

Sorry little wife... maybe I’ll see you sometime again in some other world.

And remember people, God is the world’s greatest programmer!

If you happened to pass by your god on the way to heaven as you are a worshipper, tell him Lordo was not impressed with his efforts so far, to try to show himself once in a while.

Even then I will think he is indeed an imposter.

On another note nasty people do not die young GR, they live long so they can suffer more in this hell of ours.

[Londonrake]

You ole cynic you Lordo.

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[DT.]

It’s a matter of time before I too catch Covid and will probably die from it due to my underlying issues.

As I won’t be able to say goodbye while ill or after I’m dead, please accept this short premature post as my final words to the forum.

Having accomplished all the major things I wanted in life, I will happily exit this planet of fools of which I am most tired.

My only concern is my little wife who will have to deal with the loss of her best friend, and for that I have no solution or cure.

Sorry little wife... maybe I’ll see you sometime again in some other world.

And remember people, God is the world’s greatest programmer!

awesome...finally get that piano you promised me

[Get Real!]

It’s a matter of time before I too catch Covid and will probably die from it due to my underlying issues.

As I won’t be able to say goodbye while ill or after I’m dead, please accept this short premature post as my final words to the forum.

Having accomplished all the major things I wanted in life, I will happily exit this planet of fools of which I am most tired.

My only concern is my little wife who will have to deal with the loss of her best friend, and for that I have no solution or cure.

Sorry little wife... maybe I’ll see you sometime again in some other world.

And remember people, God is the world’s greatest programmer!

awesome...finally get that piano you promised me

Let me get this straight... I can’t lift a Harley that presumably runs, but you’re gonna lift the grand Steinway?

[Get Real!]

On another note nasty people do not die young GR, they live long so they can suffer more in this hell of ours.

I have complete faith in the wisdom of a senior!

[Paphitis]

Our government gave a false sense of security to those who were jabbed and as a result thousands of Cypriots headed for the beaches recently and let loose!

Yesterday, I think the infected climbed to 300 odd!

It’s pretty obvious that the jabs were nothing but a desperate emergency experiment (no doubt with good intentions) that hasn’t worked, and in some cases has backfired causing death or harm.

2 days ago, you guys had 787 new infections. yesterday, 827 new infections. A bigger problem than before vaccinations...

And you guys are in the top 10 I think with vaccinations...

But on a positive note, the US who is even more ahead with vaccinations, has achieved a 90% reduction in infections, and a 90% reduction in death.

[Paphitis]

That's exactly right get Real.I've been asking these types of questions and when you do, you get accused of being an anti vaxxer. Despite the fact our family is being vaccinated next week with Pfizer.

There are still 10000 to 15000 daily deaths from COVID. How many were vaccinated. And what is the death rate among the vaccinated? Is it lower or the same?

You can't find that information anywhere.

The statement "You can't find that information anywhere" is not a question. You are not just 'asking questions'. You repeatedly make statements like this. Over and over and over. Yet it is so blatantly untrue that it hurts.

Do you understand what 'efficacy rate' means ? Efficacy vs infection, efficacy vs hospitalisation if you do contract it, efficacy vs death ? Just what the fuck do you think these figures are you total fucking fuckwit ? They are EXACTLY what you repeatedly claim, over and over and over 'we are not being told' and 'you can not find anywhere'. Yet we ARE being told these numbers. From the first small scale trials through to right now. From hundreds of different sources, from the manufacturers, from regulatory agencies and from 100's of independent studies globally. Yet still you bleat on and on and on 'we are not being told these numbers'. It is one thing to not believe them but to claim as you we are not being told and you can not find this information anywhere is untrue , fucking stupid and dangerous to boot. You do shit like this and then bemoan that 'vaccine cynicism' is at an all time high. Twat. Fuckwit.

I'm not talking about trials, but am looking for data of COVID infections among the vaccinated, and also how many vaccinated died.

The trials I am not interested in at all because of the small sample sizes, and that's even if you call them trials because the whole process was hurried.

One of the reasons why vaccines are banned in Australia for under 16s is the fact there were no proper trials that meet the Australian Standards with regard to children. That is one of the 2 reasons. And yet the drug companies are claiming it's safe for children.

Now, it can't be hard to collect the stats to inform the public. All they need to do is publish from the hundreds of thousands of daily cases, how many were vaccinated, and from the daily deaths, how many of them were vaccinated. So we can compare accross the board, how affective these vaccines are.

If you come to Australia, stopped 1000 people on the street, you will be lucky to find 25% that think the vaccines are affective, and/or safe even. This among the tertairy educated as well.

So if the evidence is out there, it is surely needed down here.

[Paphitis]

A fun stat.

4 days ago, Australia was issueing the second dose to 1% of its total population per day.

In the last 3 days, only 0.1% of its population - a drop of 90%.

At that rate, we should all be vaccinated in 3 years.

Or this is an indication to COVID vaccine cynicism and resistence.

[erolz66]

I'm not talking about trials, but am looking for data of COVID infections among the vaccinated, and also how many vaccinated died.

The trials I am not interested in at all because of the small sample sizes, and that's even if you call them trials because the whole process was hurried.

What you are looking for is the efficacy rate re death from covid. Or the efficacy vs hospitalisation. This is being tracked and reported everywhere by countless bodies, government and and non government, starting from the trials and is ongoing constantly and being reported constantly and yet you continue to claim 'this information is not being given'. You are a twat. The information has constantly been given from day one and is constantly being updated as more and more vaccines are being given and more data is available and with increasing specificity re particular variants.

Take Israel to give just one recent example. They have just updated their numbers on efficacy of Pfizer vaccine vs the delta variant from the numbers from before they had this variant. Their experience put the efficacy rate of pfizer at about 93% in preventing serious illness and hospitalization cases vs the 96% they had seen before they got the delta variant.

This information is out there from countless sources. It has been since the very first trials of these vaccines and is constantly updated. Yet you, as a twat, still go around claiming 'this information is not available' and then use that totally false claim to spin out conspiracy theories based on 'why is this information not available ?'. That makes you a twat in my book.

[Paphitis]

I'm not talking about trials, but am looking for data of COVID infections among the vaccinated, and also how many vaccinated died.

The trials I am not interested in at all because of the small sample sizes, and that's even if you call them trials because the whole process was hurried.

What you are looking for is the efficacy rate re death from covid. Or the efficacy vs hospitalisation. This is being tracked and reported everywhere by countless bodies, government and and non government, starting from the trials and is ongoing constantly and being reported constantly and yet you continue to claim 'this information is not being given'. You are a twat. The information has constantly been given from day one and is constantly being updated as more and more vaccines are being given and more data is available and with increasing specificity re particular variants.

Take Israel to give just one recent example. They have just updated their numbers on efficacy of Pfizer vaccine vs the delta variant from the numbers from before they had this variant. Their experience put the efficacy rate of pfizer at about 93% in preventing serious illness and hospitalization cases vs the 96% they had seen before they got the delta variant.

This information is out there from countless sources. It has been since the very first trials of these vaccines and is constantly updated. Yet you, as a twat, still go around claiming 'this information is not available' and then use that totally false claim to spin out conspiracy theories based on 'why is this information not available ?'. That makes you a twat in my book.

It's not being recorded here.

All we have are the monthll report from ATAGI with some good stats.

the last report was a month ago, so the new one must be imminent. In the last report, they were investigating 272 deaths of people who were vacccinated with 1 jab or 2 jabs.

The whole country is waiting for what the outcomes will be.

And, we do not have a big enough Covid casualty list - only 500 odd COVID infections in the entire country and probably the vaccinated among them are a very small proportion.

What is increasingly obvious to all of us is that the authorities are very guarded about the information that is released.