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Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:15 pm

Get Real! wrote:So it’s now gone from the optimistic...

“It’s safe for me to travel because I got both jabs!”

To the downgraded...

“I caught a light version of Covid thanks to the jabs!”

And soon it’ll probably lower further to...

“I only needed a ventilator for a week, thanks to the jabs!”

:lol:

Note the importance of always praising the jabs… because that’s what they’re pumping out in the media all day.

Where is the scientific evidence that you can catch light version of covid from a jab?

Read this shit you ass.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:17 pm

Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:So it’s now gone from the optimistic...

“It’s safe for me to travel because I got both jabs!”

To the downgraded...

“I caught a light version of Covid thanks to the jabs!”

And soon it’ll probably lower further to...

“I only needed a ventilator for a week, thanks to the jabs!”

:lol:

Note the importance of always praising the jabs… because that’s what they’re pumping out in the media all day.

Where is the scientific evidence that you can catch light version of covid from a jab?

Read this shit you ass.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html

That's not what I said.

“I ONLY caught a light version of Covid, thanks to the jabs!”

Better now?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:You don’t need me to tell you that for every article that promotes “A” you’ll find another dozen promoting “B”.

The many conflicting reports are a testament to a Covid-stats debacle that refuses to go away.

Interestingly, you’ll also find that the State media (BBC) or (RIK in the RoC) is the one steadfastly pro-jab while the others are the most likely to be against.

Interesting times eh...


I do not start with the media. When this whole thing kicked off, the question I asked myself is, is this 'event' leading to more deaths that the average over previous years or not. Is it on a scale of increased deaths similar to 'flu outbreaks seen every 5 to 10 years or is it on scale similar to events seen once in lifetime or once in a hundred years. Not deaths FROM covid, because that is not a hard binary thing but actually subject to opinion and degrees. Just deaths in total because if someone is alive or dead is about as binary and non subjective as you can get. Hard data. The hardest possible. So I went to the ONS figures, that have been collected and reported for decades by this body. Now you may believe that the ONS just makes these figures up to suit the needs of whatever government happens to be in power at the time but I do not , because that would have to involve hundreds of ordinary people who work in places like this being part of some conspiracy without one every 'whistle blowing'. That is data. That is evidence. It takes time and effort to search such stuff out and then think about it critically. I am coming to realise that such effort is indeed rare. That in fact most people just believe what they want to believe and just look for things that support what they want to believe and dismiss what they do not. That is what you appear to be doing here.

Plain simple logic like 'in a world where every single person had been vaccinated, 100% of Covid deaths would be of vaccinated people.' is true regardless of who says it. It also shows where you were going wrong before. Yet instead of you going 'oh yeah, actually that makes undeniable sense and I can now see why I was going off on the wrong track before' you just resort to 'it is state owned media therefore it must be untrue'. That is not thinking for your self. That is abdicating any need to have to think for your self. Its what twats do. We have seen plenty of them here and no doubt will continue to.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:40 pm

erolz66 wrote:Plain simple logic like 'in a world where every single person had been vaccinated, 100% of Covid deaths would be of vaccinated people.' is true regardless of who says it. It also shows where you were going wrong before. Yet instead of you going 'oh yeah, actually that makes undeniable sense and I can now see why I was going off on the wrong track before' you just resort to 'it is state owned media therefore it must be untrue'. That is not thinking for your self. That is abdicating any need to have to think for your self. Its what twats do. We have seen plenty of them here and no doubt will continue to.

If and when the world reaches close to 100% vaccinated, while infections, death and misery continue… then it will unfortunately prove me right that the jabs were nothing but a load of expensive rubbish that exacerbated the problem. :(
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 5:55 pm

Get Real! wrote:
erolz66 wrote:Plain simple logic like 'in a world where every single person had been vaccinated, 100% of Covid deaths would be of vaccinated people.' is true regardless of who says it. It also shows where you were going wrong before. Yet instead of you going 'oh yeah, actually that makes undeniable sense and I can now see why I was going off on the wrong track before' you just resort to 'it is state owned media therefore it must be untrue'. That is not thinking for your self. That is abdicating any need to have to think for your self. Its what twats do. We have seen plenty of them here and no doubt will continue to.

If and when the world reaches close to 100% vaccinated, while infections, death and misery continue… then it will unfortunately prove me right that the jabs were nothing but a load of expensive rubbish that exacerbated the problem. :(


QED

Try replacing covid with polio in your 'wisdom' above and you might, maybe, perhaps get an inkling of why it's such a twatish thing to assert.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Lordo » Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:22 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:So it’s now gone from the optimistic...

“It’s safe for me to travel because I got both jabs!”

To the downgraded...

“I caught a light version of Covid thanks to the jabs!”

And soon it’ll probably lower further to...

“I only needed a ventilator for a week, thanks to the jabs!”

:lol:

Note the importance of always praising the jabs… because that’s what they’re pumping out in the media all day.

Where is the scientific evidence that you can catch light version of covid from a jab?

Read this shit you ass.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html

That's not what I said.

“I ONLY caught a light version of Covid, thanks to the jabs!”

Better now?

You did not express it correctly. What you had was the full version of covid but the effects were light due to the vaccine you had. What you said could easily mean something else.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby DT. » Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:14 pm

I’m double jabbed Pfizer. Was found positive yesterday and today feeling like I just had a 7hr workout at the gym yesterday with a runny nose.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:17 am

DT. wrote:I’m double jabbed Pfizer. Was found positive yesterday and today feeling like I just had a 7hr workout at the gym yesterday with a runny nose.


Sorry to hear. Hope you get well soon.

Do you kow how you got it?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:22 am

Get Real! wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Note the importance of always praising the jabs… because that’s what they’re pumping out in the media all day.

It is simply a case of looking at the data and what it tells you and not just ignoring it to fit a pre decided opinion. You are in fact the one that is ignoring and discarding the data in order to maintain your 'cynical' persona which is exactly as stupid as just believing 'the media' without looking at the data. Both are just as stupid and just as dangerous. If the data did not show real evidence that the current vaccines provide material degrees of benefit vs the current variants in terms of both your chance of contracting the virus and the severity of outcomes if you do then I would not be saying this is the case, regardless of what the 'media', or you, might be saying. That is actually thinking for yourself. Just disbelieving the actual evidence and data because 'the media said it' is no less stupid than believing it for same reason.

And what data is it you’re looking at if not that which they choose to publish?

ie: Notice how they no longer inform how many of the deceased were doubly-vaccinated?


That's exactly right get Real.I've been asking these types of questions and when you do, you get accused of being an anti vaxxer. Despite the fact our family is being vaccinated next week with Pfizer.

There are still 10000 to 15000 daily deaths from COVID. How many were vaccinated. And what is the death rate among the vaccinated? Is it lower or the same?

You can't find that information anywhere.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:27 am

Get Real! wrote:
erolz66 wrote:Plain simple logic like 'in a world where every single person had been vaccinated, 100% of Covid deaths would be of vaccinated people.' is true regardless of who says it. It also shows where you were going wrong before. Yet instead of you going 'oh yeah, actually that makes undeniable sense and I can now see why I was going off on the wrong track before' you just resort to 'it is state owned media therefore it must be untrue'. That is not thinking for your self. That is abdicating any need to have to think for your self. Its what twats do. We have seen plenty of them here and no doubt will continue to.

If and when the world reaches close to 100% vaccinated, while infections, death and misery continue… then it will unfortunately prove me right that the jabs were nothing but a load of expensive rubbish that exacerbated the problem. :(


Which is impossible to get to 100%

vaccinations yesterday in Australia fell again to 40,000 vaccinations of new recipients. 63000 the day before and around 150,000 before that.

They will be lucky to vaccinate 40% of us here the way they are going...

And what's even worse, is that Vaccine cynicism is at an all time high with even those who have got their first jab, refusing to go back.
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