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[erolz66]

...i stand in defense of Paphitis. Furthermore, his opinions and arguments are not so uncommon. I, we, have to take everyone's opinion into account to determine, as I (we) see it, the facts.

Stating that "We had another vaccination death today. After one yesterday as well. This time an 18 year old." when this is just not true at all, is not a matter of 'opinion'. It is bollocks and any right minded person should call it out as such, not fucking defend it. Stating that the Australian government has said there have been 6 deaths so far from the Aus vac program when in fact the number is 2 , is not a matter of 'opinion'. Stating that the Aus government is not producing figures on negative reactions to vaccination when in fact it is producing weekly figures is not 'opinion'. And and and.

So you can fuck right off too RW with your defence of 'paphitis' and his BS and lies and call it 'opinion' if you want. Lies are lies, not opinion. I am out of here.

[repulsewarrior]

..you may be stating facts erolz, and i am glad that you are here setting the record straight, on the other hand it is as i said, Paphitis is not alone in his assumptions; this dialog is better with him than without.

[Paphitis]

...i stand in defense of Paphitis. Furthermore, his opinions and arguments are not so uncommon. I, we, have to take everyone's opinion into account to determine, as I (we) see it, the facts.

Stating that "We had another vaccination death today. After one yesterday as well. This time an 18 year old." when this is just not true at all, is not a matter of 'opinion'. It is bollocks and any right minded person should call it out as such, not fucking defend it. Stating that the Australian government has said there have been 6 deaths so far from the Aus vac program when in fact the number is 2 , is not a matter of 'opinion'. Stating that the Aus government is not producing figures on negative reactions to vaccination when in fact it is producing weekly figures is not 'opinion'. And and and.

So you can fuck right off too RW with your defence of 'paphitis' and his BS and lies and call it 'opinion' if you want. Lies are lies, not opinion. I am out of here.

There have been deaths reported to the TGA and ATAGI from blood clots.

Not only that but apparently our hospitals are at breaking point already from people with adverse reactions.

This stuff isn't being reported so much but the media are aware of the fact that hospital resources are stretched like they have never been befoe with no beds available - despite eradication of flu and despite only about 30 to 40 COVID hospitalisations nation wide, 1 in ICU.

Yes we are having deaths of people recently vaccinated, and they are being reported to ATAGI and are being investigated. there are 6 in total, 2 confirmed. And there are many blood clotting admissions in the order of about 40 to 50 people, some in ICU, and some who will never recover.

And there have been admissions of people with serious blood pressure issues and damage to the heart organ.

Other admissions as well involving less serious complications such as fever, headaches, fainting and joint pain.

Hence why we have ambulances ramping on hospital ramps with patients, sometimes sleeping in Ambulances overnight ill a bed is available. That's never happened before.

All of that, plus the constant barage of 6 live press releases from 6 Australian Governments, some contradicting the other, vaccines in Australia now face a credibility issue. Result is a disaster we are now living day to day with regard to vaccines rather than COVID.

Plus a lot of other mix messaging such as indemnifying doctors. Sime people are saying that this indemnity means they won't vaccinate.

[Paphitis]

Sorry but I stand corrected. TGA is investigating 272 reports of death after vaccination as of 10th of June.

Which they have not yet confirmed as being from the vaccines as they could be from other causes. As of that date, only 2 confirmed cases from the vaccine so far.

And there are 30,000 reports in total from everything under the sun, including shingles.

Meanwhile Cyprus has 734 new cases yesterday. Question must be asked by now whether these vaccines work. Do they work or not? Or are we just suppose to take our Governments word for it? That we should vaccinate to protect us from Covid and we won’t have other adverse health issues from the vaccines as guinea pigs that we have become?

I’m just asking the question. I have the right to ask these kinds of questions. Only stupid people don’t ask these questions and decide to blindly play Russian Roulette.

[erolz66]

You are not 'just asking questions'. You are making assertions and claims that are total bollocks and you just can not stop. Your latest being "our hospitals are at breaking point already from people with adverse reactions.". Yet more sheer utter bollocks from you. This bollocks is not being reported in the media because it is bollocks. One twat posting such bollocks on social media and being believed by countless other twats like you is not the 'media'. It's just a collection of twats feeding off each other (a cage of twats).

You simply have no ability to make rational assessments, as shown by your notion that because numbers of new infections are increasing in the RoC the efficacy of the vaccines should be questioned and that it is some kind of binary question of the vaccines either work 100% or 0%. That both in the RoC and the UK and every where else vaccination has proven to reduce the ratio of new cases to hospitalisation and death by an order of magnitude is obviously something that is beyond your abilities to understand. And just for accuracies sake, something you have contempt for, the number of cases reported in the RoC for Monday was 787 not 734 as you claimed.

You are a twat an with regards to life and death issues like these, you are a dangerous twat. I will waste no more time on your arrogant stupidity.

[erolz66]

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[Lordo]

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. If indeed the vaccination is preventing covid sufferers to avoisd hospitals and simply get over it with medication, the problem is solved till they can find out to prevent it, at least we can return to some sort of normality. This Summer and Autumn will show us what is really happening.

I for one will continue with my mask and social distancing in general except my family and so long as we limut everybody else, we shall be just fine.

[Londonrake]

Interesting article by Andrew Marr. His experience post-catching Covid after being double vaccinated:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57640550

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[Lordo]

Interesting article by Andrew Marr. His experience post-catching Covid after being double vaccinated:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57640550

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He knew he had a stroke so he was in grave risk and despite that he took them. He only has himself to blame I am afraid. Not that I am namedropping but before he had his stroke, he used to run by the river and I saw him a few time when I take my dog for walk in that direction. My dog did not like him either. Every time it sees him it growls at him. Something wrong with that man. My dog can tell, it only gowls at not so nice people.

[erolz66]

There is a meaingful probability that had Andrew Marr not been vaccinated then he could have ended up in ICU or dead vs the rough few days at home he experienced. Yes he contracted covid (delta variant) after having been fully vaccinated (pfizer) but the evidence that vaccination reduces the severity of covid even if it fails to stop you contracting it in the first place is real and compelling.