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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:14 am

Londonrake wrote:Looks like one Aus miner left a quarantine hotel for Alice Springs carrying Delta and now it’s cropping up in all the major cities.

Australia has a pretty poor vaccination record. 5% I think.

I don’t believe the “Fortress Aus” idea’s ever really been credible. :(


Outbreak is very minor at present, if you can even call it an outbreak right now as that might be a far stretch. They are trying to track dozens of miners on their R&R who are on fishing boats or camping in remote spots. That's what miners do on their R&R.

And a Cabin Crew member came out positive after she did 5 sectors between Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Canberra and Perth. So all those cities in lock down until all the passengers and close contacts are tested.

The vaccination process in Australia will not proceed very fast because the messaging is mixed. Australians are now the least trusting of the vaccinations in the world.

And today, Australian Government just said all medicos will be indemnified if anyone comes down with severe reactions, complications such as blood clotting or dies from the vaccine.

Australians, are more worried about the vaccine than they are of COVID.

And the other thing going on is that massive supplies of Pfizer and Moderna will not come till October. So it could be people are waiting till that happens. No one knows.

All I can say is that there is no urgency from the people. When you ask anyone, the standard reply is they will wait.

The other thing that is perplexing is that the authorities have already said that vaccinations will not stop COVID. They are saying it will reduce symptoms though, and reduce the chance from dieing of COVID. And the reporting of complications has been the most transparent in the world so we got to give credit to our authorities for that. Our Pharmaceutical Watchdog has been very boisterous and not shy from even banning or taking on the big Pharma companies and challenging their claims.

But when we look at the global data in countries like Cyprus, where most of the population are vaccinated, and COVID is on the increase again and people will start to die again, Australians are scratching their heads and coming up with their own conclusions.

As for the current outbreak. The last few days we are getting 18 to 20 community cases in Sydney.40 odd cases nationwide (including returning expats in quarantine). It's caused a nationwide locked down. Only Adelaide and Tasmania not in lock down right now.

The response, once again, has been phenomenal with thousands of people being tracked and tested if you are a close contact.

We have seen this before a few times, and in all those times it got snuffed out pretty quickly. Even the massive Melbourne breakout which was really a serious one in comparison to this one, was eventually snuffed out.

Policy seems to be eradication once again.

Borders are still closed to all countries except New Zealand who are more or less opeating like their own bubble.

We still have International Flights. Most of them empty coming in other than some Australian citizen expats coming home, and approved workers. Flights leave empty other than Australian Exports. How the airlines are making money is anyone's guess. I guess fresh produce, seafood, etc are lucrative for the exporters and airlines.

Oh and the Flight Crews are not allowed to have contact with Australians. Sound like North Korea...That's how Australia is operating right now. A little hermit kingdon.

We should start calling our PM our Supreme Leader and erect massive busts everywhere. :lol:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:28 am

But what we can say is the approach has been consistent throughout. When there is no community transmission, it's business as usual here in Australia.

When we do have community transmission, we go instantly into lock down very early on. It's an eradication approach that is extremely strict, authoritarian, and unforgiving. Australian Government just simply doesn't want COVID here.

The thinking is that with community transmission, if we don't go into lock down, we end up with a scenario like Melbourne, or even worse we have COVID to the same levels as Europe and US had.

Not all our cases are community transmission. Some are returning expats who just jumped off a plane and go straight into medical quarantine in a very controlled and managed facility with no contact with the general public or even their families. We are still repatriating our citizens back home. Thousands still stranded overseas who can't get into Australia. A very big concern for our family too as I am hoping to be off to the US in the latter part of this year. If there is another outbreak in the US, I might not see my family for up to 2 years. Family will come after 3 months, hopefully... :?

As for the vaccines, it's very much wait and see down here. The people are difficult to please and want to look at the rest of the world for now to see how things go.

I'm so happy I have a tank of a 4x4 ute that can take me places. Only assured why to get a vacation in Australia. We can go to New Zealand as well. Which btw, is one of the most bueatiful countries on the planet.

We can just jump on a direct Air NZ flight there. If this continues, I think we will go their for a couple of weeks and go skiing. Winter is the time to go to New Zealand.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:15 am

Adelaide just gone into lock down for 3 days as well - all because of 1 community case. :lol:

That just leaves tasmania as the only state not in lock down. :lol:

We could be off to the races as well as undoubtedly there are other cases not yet found diagnosed.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:34 am

Paphitis wrote:We can just jump on a direct Air NZ flight there. If this continues, I think we will go their for a couple of weeks and go skiing. Winter is the time to go to New Zealand.


No you can not , currently

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-conve ... WMS2ITEYQ/
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Londonrake » Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:05 pm

Sorry Paphitis. Aus is fucked. Zero covid policy = zero antibodies. 5% vaccination rate. Whilst the rest of the developed world, having taken the hit and ramped up jab rates, are now recovering, Australian is stuck on planet "vote for fortress Australia" :roll:

Sooner or later, you will have to face up to the Ostrich reality. It's gonna hurt and your politicians are going to be confronted with the results of the artificial situation they created. Good luck - and do get yourself vaccinated. :(
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:37 pm

Londonrake wrote:Sorry Paphitis. Aus is fucked. Zero covid policy = zero antibodies. 5% vaccination rate. Whilst the rest of the developed world, having taken the hit and ramped up jab rates, are now recovering, Australian is stuck on planet "vote for fortress Australia" :roll:

Sooner or later, you will have to face up to the Ostrich reality. It's gonna hurt and your politicians are going to be confronted with the results of the artificial situation they created. Good luck - and do get yourself vaccinated. :(


Sorry but with 40 odd cases of Covid a day out of a population of 26 million, I think I’ll take my chances in Australia rather than anywhere else.

And it looks like the vaccine isn’t giving you the immunity you think you have. :wink:

You keep saying there is a recovery. Up and down trends sure. Cyprus was doing ok a week ago but now they are pushing 400 cases a day and increasing.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:40 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:We can just jump on a direct Air NZ flight there. If this continues, I think we will go their for a couple of weeks and go skiing. Winter is the time to go to New Zealand.


No you can not , currently

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/the-conve ... WMS2ITEYQ/


From Adelaide, yes I can.

Can book a flight for this Monday.

https://flightbookings.airnewzealand.co ... -741855592
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:52 pm

Londonrake wrote:Sorry Paphitis. Aus is fucked. Zero covid policy = zero antibodies. 5% vaccination rate. Whilst the rest of the developed world, having taken the hit and ramped up jab rates, are now recovering, Australian is stuck on planet "vote for fortress Australia" :roll:

Sooner or later, you will have to face up to the Ostrich reality. It's gonna hurt and your politicians are going to be confronted with the results of the artificial situation they created. Good luck - and do get yourself vaccinated. :(


Oh and what is this you are saying about Covid policy? What’s the Covid policy in Europe and it what way is it better? Doesn’t appear to be better at all from where we are standing.

We do have a Covid policy. Probably one of the most pro active and aggressive policies out there that has been massively successful so far. We have done very well with our policy and we all feel safe and secure. And our economy has been very robust too. We are not in recession like the rest of the world is and only South Korea can boast the same.

30,000 cases is one of the lowest incident levels in the world. And in the most part we are leading normal lives down here. Life goes on. Everything is open, we was until yesterday in Sydney and Brisbane. And will hopefully return to normal in 3 days for Brisbane and in another 9 days in Sydney.

We don’t need to be in a hurry to vaccinate our population. It’s not as if we have a big Covid problem as it stands today. If it develops into one, and that could be possible, then it changes.

But it’s more likely our authorities will sbuff it out like they did before. That’s been their policy all along.

They are not going down the road of obtaining herd immunity by letting most of the population get Covid resulting in thousands of deaths. They don’t think that’s a great idea.

As for the vaccination. I don’t have much of a choice and I am not against the vaccines. Just want to sit as far back in the line as I possibly can.

Today, a 30 year old person died here in Australia within 48 hours of vaccination. I don’t know their medical history but it’s definitely something to think about. Could be a coincidence but this isn’t the only case. And the individual was supposed free from health issues. But still, people can still die for no apparent reason. Totally accept that. But…

It was Astra Zeneca.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:17 pm

Londonrake wrote:Sorry Paphitis. Aus is fucked. Zero covid policy = zero antibodies. 5% vaccination rate. Whilst the rest of the developed world, having taken the hit and ramped up jab rates, are now recovering, Australian is stuck on planet "vote for fortress Australia" :roll:

Sooner or later, you will have to face up to the Ostrich reality. It's gonna hurt and your politicians are going to be confronted with the results of the artificial situation they created. Good luck - and do get yourself vaccinated. :(


And here is a interesting fact.

The countries that have handled the Covid situation the best are the lowest in terms of vaccinations - South Korea, NZ and Australia, are bottom of the ladder.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... SApp_Other

Probably because they can afford to and probably because they don’t need to make rash decisions and who knows, they probably think the vaccines are useless and are going to add to the problems.

We will see if that is correct.

But one thing is for sure. If you live in Australia or NZ, and you were not obligated to get the vaccine for work or other health reasons, you are probably mad to be an early adopter guinea pig on something that just hasn’t been tested enough.

If you live in India, Cyprus, US, Brazil or even UK, you would be insane to not get vaccinated.

The urgency of the COVID crisis in your neck of the woods is far more considerable than the urgency in Australia. I think that's the difference. You wold have to be so ulucky to get COVID here.

But our media love creating melodrama. Apparently 31 community cases in Australia is apocalyptic. but it really isn't. You know what they say. The media love to create a crisis even if a crisis doesn't exist because it sells their papers, it's good clickbait, and increases TV ratings. And that generates advertising revenue.

In Adelaide, the 1 COVID xase today ended up being 5 cases.

It was a miner returning home with COVID and infecting his wife and 3 kids. All cases under the 1 roof. But they are testing everyone that has had close contact with that family.

And because it was so isolated and no other cases were found, we are actually not in lock down. It's now off again. But if they find some tomorrow, we will go in lock down for sure. :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:38 am

Health Minister, who is a qualified surgeon, just made an off the cuff comment in front of journos.

They said I won’t have a healthy 18 year old die from taking AZ.

Guys, there is definitely something going on with the vaccines.

There were more blood clot deaths today. Zero deaths from Covid.
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