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Postby erolz66 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:49 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:Bizarre...

Still only ~1M dead, more dying of flu...

...And yet betwetters like GR and ErLolz still think they'll drop dead if they venture out without full HazMat suits... :lol:


Some of us can understand numbers is all. We do not just make things up as suits, like more people have died this year from flu than covid, or that covid was rapidly dying out almost everywhere as far back as end of June. Basically not all of us are twats to the degree you are CG. You were fundamentally wrong about the virus back in June, the kind of fundamentally wrong that when turned in to policy means more people die and suffer as a result. The only bizarre thing is how you could have been so publicly and fundamentally wrong yet not be able to even recognise how fundamentally wrong you were. All you have is denial and calling anyone who points out reality to you a bedwetter. I have had more stimulating interaction with children than you provide here.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:49 am

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Paphitis wrote:I’m talking globally too. Because if this Agenda 2030 is to come to fruition, then imagine a one world government, probably English Speaking and probably based in New York ruling the world from New York to Cyprus.

If this is going to happen, it will be global. It won’t be a singular location or country.

We already have many totalitarian regimes in so many countries but just imagine one global totalitarian order that controls everything, every country and all our lives down to how we live and earn our living.

I thought you like Trump and consider him a "competent" leader... what's the matter now, don't you want the "genius" ruling the whole planet? :lol:


I do trust him and there are many reasons why this is the case.

In case you haven’t noticed, Trump seems to be the only or one of a very tiny select few world leaders that a bucking the globalist agenda. He is actively fighting it.

So now you know, Trump is NOT one of the elites pushing for less rights or pushing for the interests of the global elites. He is probably one of the most hated figures of the elites. One way to look at it is that he must be doing something right to upset those elites such as Gates, Buffet and co.

He seems to be the only person that is questioning everything, doesn’t want the people to live in project fear and wants to protect America from things such as Agenda 2030.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:53 am

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:German lawyer Rainer Fuellmich, a leading member of the COVID - 19 Extraparliamentary Inquiry Committee in Germany, sets out how an international network of lawyers is planning to sue those responsible for the covid scandal, initially through the North American and German courts, and possible later elsewhere:

You are evading the all-important question... how does this “great power” benefit from shutting the world down?

Answer with a nice little numbered LIST using your own words. No need for links, no need for Youtube… just tap into your brain and put it to work.


Imagine having the sheeple all towing the line, working for the super rich for the roof over their head and the crappy sustainable food they will be given, and for the sustainable amount of energy they would be allowed to use. Rules which won’t apply to the super rich who would basically own your life and time which they convert into labour for your meagre existence. It’s basically slavery. But they don’t call it that of course. The elites call it sustainable living in order to save the planet. And they won’t be abiding by the same rules either.

They will once again control the way you think, and behave because without them you would have no shelter, no energy, no transport, no medicine, no travel, and no food.

It seems out there right? Well I hope it is out there. I told you I hope it’s all just a conspiracy. I would live to be wrong and hope right now I am wrong and I may well be wrong hopefully. But look at what the elites have managed to do so far and look at the masses lapping it up and calling for more, I am worried about it. Because a common cold shut down the world. Yes sure, precautions need to be taken for sure but I can’t fathom how such a low death rate can warrant such draconian over reaction.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:10 am

Paphitis wrote:Imagine having the sheeple all towing the line, working for the super rich for the roof over their head and the crappy sustainable food they will be given, and for the sustainable amount of energy they would be allowed to use. Rules which won’t apply to the super rich who would basically own your life and time which they convert into labour for your meagre existence. It’s basically slavery. But they don’t call it that of course. The elites call it sustainable living in order to save the planet. And they won’t be abiding by the same rules either.

They will once again control the way you think, and behave because without them you would have no shelter, no energy, no transport, no medicine, no travel, and no food.

Working? Sorry, nobody is working because the world has shut down, remember? Try again...
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:13 am

Paphitis wrote:So now you know, Trump is NOT one of the elites pushing for...

Why do you prematurely assume I believe or agree with you? :lol:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:35 am

erolz66 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:Bizarre...

Still only ~1M dead, more dying of flu...

...And yet betwetters like GR and ErLolz still think they'll drop dead if they venture out without full HazMat suits... :lol:


Some of us can understand numbers is all. We do not just make things up as suits, like more people have died this year from flu than covid, or that covid was rapidly dying out almost everywhere as far back as end of June. Basically not all of us are twats to the degree you are CG. You were fundamentally wrong about the virus back in June, the kind of fundamentally wrong that when turned in to policy means more people die and suffer as a result. The only bizarre thing is how you could have been so publicly and fundamentally wrong yet not be able to even recognise how fundamentally wrong you were. All you have is denial and calling anyone who points out reality to you a bedwetter. I have had more stimulating interaction with children than you provide here.


Fundamentally wrong eh...? :?

erolz66 » Sun May 10, 2020 4:37 pm wrote:
The hard numbers show the scale of this event is biggest since (I am now convinced 1918 but take your pick, last 25 years, 1968). The other numbers that you say 'vindicate' that of excess deaths most are not covid-19, are NOT hard. They are guesses / opinions etc. Nor do they stack up if you blame 'lockdown' for excess deaths and compare ONS hard numbers with Swedens hard numbers (see using ONLY hard numbers). Seeing same degree of excess in both despite differences in lock down, to date.


You need to look in the mirrorErLolz! :lol:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:00 am

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Paphitis wrote:Imagine having the sheeple all towing the line, working for the super rich for the roof over their head and the crappy sustainable food they will be given, and for the sustainable amount of energy they would be allowed to use. Rules which won’t apply to the super rich who would basically own your life and time which they convert into labour for your meagre existence. It’s basically slavery. But they don’t call it that of course. The elites call it sustainable living in order to save the planet. And they won’t be abiding by the same rules either.

They will once again control the way you think, and behave because without them you would have no shelter, no energy, no transport, no medicine, no travel, and no food.

Working? Sorry, nobody is working because the world has shut down, remember? Try again...


Exactly! Tell me the last time any Government had such blatant disregard to our financial well being? To our jobs? To our businesses?

Shop fronts closing. Buildings left vacant. Mortgages however remain. How will they be paid?

It seems like financial suicide.

But wait, you are going to say they have to in order to save lives. Prove to me how many lives would be saved.

And explain to me why your model in Cyprus and Sweden isn’t better in that at least it’s geared to keep some economic activity going as opposed to Melbourne which is really closed down.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:02 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:So now you know, Trump is NOT one of the elites pushing for...

Why do you prematurely assume I believe or agree with you? :lol:


You don’t because you are blind. You want the same same same old established Clintons and Obidens!

You want the real criminals to re-establish their control.

You are fed a narrative Get Real which I have on many occasions disproven. You are the kind of person who is trained or brainwashed to accept a false narrative.

Tim, being from the opposite side of the political spectrum can see it because he can look into things.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:17 am

Get Real! wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:German lawyer Rainer Fuellmich, a leading member of the COVID - 19 Extraparliamentary Inquiry Committee in Germany, sets out how an international network of lawyers is planning to sue those responsible for the covid scandal, initially through the North American and German courts, and possible later elsewhere:

You are evading the all-important question... how does this “great power” benefit from shutting the world down?

Answer with a nice little numbered LIST using your own words. No need for links, no need for Youtube… just tap into your brain and put it to work.


Thank you for your question, although I must confess I am somewhat astonished by your objection to links since you are someone who in the past has frequently called on posters to back up their claims with links to reliable sources, and I think doing so is an important component of intelligent debate.

I am also astonished by your question since I recently replied to the very same question from you. I notice that Kikapu also constantly asks me this self-same question even though I have given my answer to it on each occasion. I think this points to the existence of some sort of cognitive dissonance which I do not really understand. I consider you both to be highly intelligent people who approach everything critically. For example, when the mainstream media told you that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and this was the reason for invading Iraq, I am sure you were not convinced by this. I am sure you will agree with my analysis certain powerful forces in the world had in interest in invading that country, and the weapons of mass destruction lie was perpetrated by the mainstream media to provide a pretext for that invasion. Surely, if the mainstream media can be used in this way on one occasion, we have to be on our guard that this may happen on another.

The question you are asking is essentially the one of cui bono, and it is perfectly valid. This, of course, is the question I asked you when you claimed the American deep state deliberately released a dangerous, highly contagious virus in China when it must have been obvious that a highly contagious virus would rapidly spread throughout the world causing great destruction. So, cui bono? Why did the American deep state do this? Who did it benefit and how? Of course, the same question is valid for the deliberate destruction of the world economy based on hysterical and exaggerated mainstream media coverage of what, at worst, is a disease less dangerous than the flu, and which, given that the virus still has to be isolated and no scientific proof such as satisfying Koch’s postulates has been provided that it causes the disease it is said to, may not even exist. Who benefits from this destruction?

In the first place, there is a simple verifiable fact which I have demonstrated using a link to a reliable source above. The net wealth of American billionaires has increased significantly this year, despite the destruction of the world economy. OK, I am complying with your arbitrary and puzzling ban on links in this reply, but I could give you a wealth of evidence showing that the global super rich have not suffered financially during this so-called pandemic. If you look at the share prices of what are called the “tech” stocks such as Amazon, Tesla, Apple, Microsoft or Facebook they have all skyrocketed this year. Neither the megarich nor the megacorporations that deliver their wealth have suffered at all as the masses are thrown out of work and see their small businesses shut down. In fact, the shutting down of small businesses is grist to the mill of the megacorporations. So, perhaps, those who suggest that the destruction of the world economy on the back of irrational hysteria whipped up by the mainstream media may be part of a plan being orchestrated by the global ruling class do not even have to answer the question cui bono, since the latter have not been negatively affected by these events.

Even so, we can speculate why they would wish to drive the bulk of humanity into destitution and what they would have to gain from this. And, the short answer is that I do not know for certain. If there does exist a grand game plan behind it all, I am not privy to it. All I can do is examine the available information and try to put a picture together. As I see it there are various competing explanations:

1. Having tried and ultimately failed to keep the global economy going with quantitative easing since the 2008 crash, a massive collapse was imminent so why not use a virus as the scapegoat when it happens? In other words, it is not to anybody’s financial benefit (which is contradicted by the information in the above paragraph) but helps to deflect blame for the collapse away from those responsible for it.

2. Big pharma is making huge profits from things like selling tests (which are so inaccurate as to be totally useless) and stands to profit handsomely from the much touted vaccine. In fact, it is already doing so because governments are channelling massive amounts of taxpayers’ money in its direction for vaccines that have not even been developed. (Personally, I hope and pray this just ends up with big pharma injecting everyone with some useless placebo, the mainstream media under its control then starts regaling us with glorious story after story about the pandemic that never existed in the first place ending and at least life can return to normal, albeit with the majority of us impoverished as a result of this heist on an unprecedented scale of taxpayers’ money by big pharma) In other words, everyone else suffers – although, as I have shown above, the megarich are not suffering at all - but big pharma profits handsomely.

3. A major transition to a new kind of society – the kind of thing the World Economic Forum is discussing under the rubrics of the “great reset” and the “fourth industrial revolution” – is being engineered and there are those who argue that this will take a form in which the masses are stripped of many of the rights they currently enjoy and reduced to poverty and placed under totalitarian rule in which they are subject to tight surveillance using new technologies that are being developed and will enable this. If you look at everything that has happened since the so-called pandemic started, you can clearly discern a move in this direction with the pandemic used as the pretext. In this case, driving people into poverty and ruining most small and medium-sized businesses is both the end goal, anyway, so the question of cui bono does not arise (and as I have shown the superrich are not suffering during this process) and also helps to facilitate the process. By reducing people to poverty and making them dependent on state handouts, you make them easier to control and make resistance harder. Everything seems to revolve around the mandatory injection that is coming and there are those who believe that the true aim is to inject something into our bodies that in conjunction with 5G that is being rolled out at breakneck speed will enable us to be controlled and monitored in a way that was previously inconceivable (I know I am not permitted links but you can find the views along these lines of your fellow committed Christian Dr Christiane Northrup in a link I provided earlier; just one person’s opinion, of course). If this is the case, then the whole process of destroying the economy thereby driving small businesses out of existence and the masses into penury and imposing lockdowns and restrictions thereby driving people into depression and despair will in the end serve the purpose of forcing the people into surrender and securing mass acceptance for the vaccine that will supposedly enable life to return to normal and people to return to work and reopen their businesses. It will be sad if they wake up to find themselves having been enslaved instead. The advantage for the global ruling class in the end is that it will have massively consolidated its power, have the masses under its tight control and surveillance thus making any potential revolt or revolution difficult if not impossible and will have further monopolized its control of world resources. And, as I have shown above, the superrich are not suffering financially in the meantime.

So, I really hope the above ideas go some way towards addressing your question and you will not find the need to ask it yet again. Ultimately, I don’t know for sure but some ulterior motive appears to be lurking behind the panic and fear being whipped up over very little.

Anyway, I am sure you will agree it pays to be sceptical and keep alternative possibilities in mind. For example, I would also love to discuss the theory that the American deep state released the virus in Wuhan. So, now it is your turn. Cui bono? Who benefits from this and how?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:32 am

Paphitis wrote:...

Tim, being from the opposite side of the political spectrum can see it because he can look into things.


A reshaping of the political paradigm is taking place. From my perspective, the left fights for the rights of the exploited masses against the ruling class. We currently see the global ruling class attempting to stage what amounts to a global coup which will be greatly to the detriment of the exploited masses. The job of resisting this surely falls to the left but, to my astonishment, I see people and groups claiming to be on the left, either out of stupidity, naivety or perhaps a perceived ulterior interest, supporting and facilitating this coup.

Confident that links are permitted in replying to you, I can’t help posting parts of a post titled “What comes after the left / right paradigm, if anything?” by Alison McDowell who comes from the left and is equally perturbed at the reaction by the so-called left to what is going on:

I believe we’re teetering on the brink of worldwide techo-fascism.
Well, it’s pretty much blowing out in certain quarters already.
The program has been wrapped in progressive language.
As a result, many have unknowingly been led to embrace the creation of a global digital jail.
We’ll soon see the roll out of Internet of Things social credit scoring and human capital bonds.
The rules of the game will be the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals.
This is the World Economic Forum / Davos global economic reset.
This is the advent of Globalization 4.0.
This is “wrong kind of green” financialization of nature.
Predatory poverty mining by nonprofits for hedge funds.
Covid the trigger event; Klaus Schwab the helmsman.

So far I am not seeing many with clear eyes to face what they are a part of.
It’s hard when your identity is wrapped up in concepts of benevolence, charity, and being the “good” person.
Those who identify themselves as the “good people” will be running the gulags – on dashboards.
Over the past six months I’ve watched the left eagerly wave in techno-fascism.
I thought it was because they didn’t know better.
But last week I stumbled onto Michael Young, social entrepreneur.
I dug into his ties to the Labour Party in the UK and the Fabian Society and London School of Economics.

I don’t see this as a left/right issue anymore.
It is a right relationships issue; it is an issue of care.
The old models are not serving us.
They never have.
The current paradigm keeps people apart.
It distracts us from the realization that this fight is the masses against the billionaires and AI.
We must put Davos in the crosshairs.
Redistribute fin-tech’s plunder.
Dismantle the surveillance state.
Nurture communities of voluntarily shared labor.
Heal the planet. Make things right again.
Each community to their own on condition that we all agree not to hurt one another or the earth.


https://wrenchinthegears.com/2020/09/17 ... -anything/
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