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[repulsewarrior]

more info on COVID, and how it spreads,

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... ly_1576271

In study after study, we see that super-spreading clusters of COVID-19 almost overwhelmingly occur in poorly ventilated, indoor environments where many people congregate over time—weddings, churches, choirs, gyms, funerals, restaurants, and such—especially when there is loud talking or singing without masks. For super-spreading events to occur, multiple things have to be happening at the same time, and the risk is not equal in every setting and activity, Muge Cevik, a clinical lecturer in infectious diseases and medical virology at the University of St. Andrews and a co-author of a recent extensive review of transmission conditions for COVID-19, told me.

...it is a long article but worth glancing through.

[Tim Drayton]

Nicaragua, the Central American country that did not impose a lockdown. The result:



A related Lancet article:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lang ... 14-109X(20)30218-7/fulltext

[Get Real!]

Nicaragua, the Central American country that did not impose a lockdown. The result:



A related Lancet article:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lang ... 14-109X(20)30218-7/fulltext

Nicaragua...

https://globalvoices.org/2020/06/05/in- ... -covid-19/

[Get Real!]

But to be honest with you Tim (and other covid deniers), your posts here are not about Covid-19 at all, they are in fact about YOU!

They are about your futile attempts to save face; for which you’re wasting your time 24/7 scanning the Internet for a modicum of “evidence” that’ll support the sad stance you condemned yourselves to from the very onset.

It would be nice if you were right but unfortunately, the virus is for real, the damage is for real, and the global disaster is real.

[Paphitis]

But to be honest with you Tim (and other covid deniers), your posts here are not about Covid-19 at all, they are in fact about YOU!

They are about your futile attempts to save face; for which you’re wasting your time 24/7 scanning the Internet for a modicum of “evidence” that’ll support the sad stance you condemned yourselves to from the very onset.

It would be nice if you were right but unfortunately, the virus is for real, the damage is for real, and the global disaster is real.

Here is one for you Get Real.

Can you explain to me how Cyprus with a population of about 1 million has now more new cases of Covid than ALL of Australia with a population of 26 million? Only a month ago we were making headlines because of Melbourne.

Sorry, I’m not making fun of it as I wish it wasn’t the case, but sadly for you it is.

You started it!

You made it sound like we are dropping like flies down here but the only thing that’s dropping like flies down here are the Covid numbers.

Face it dude. We are kicking arse. It’s the delivery that’s the issue because I guarantee you that our biggest pandemic down in Australia is actually suicide.

But on a brighter night, we are about 2000 lives ahead of the curve just from the record low levels of influenza.

So, we save some lives from influenza, lose 890 due to COVID (fuck all) and we lose some other lives to self harm and mental health.

Swings and round abouts. But if Covid is your metric my friend, then get your house in order first because Australia is kicking some ass. At least in terms of Covid and influenza. Might not be so impressive though if someone looks into our suicide rates.

I guess we just value lives than the tourist dollar. I guess we are a wealthy enough country to be able to do that.

[Tim Drayton]

But to be honest with you Tim (and other covid deniers), your posts here are not about Covid-19 at all, they are in fact about YOU!

They are about your futile attempts to save face; for which you’re wasting your time 24/7 scanning the Internet for a modicum of “evidence” that’ll support the sad stance you condemned yourselves to from the very onset.

It would be nice if you were right but unfortunately, the virus is for real, the damage is for real, and the global disaster is real.

If the virus were for real, and it really was causing the disease and those deaths where so-called Covid is shown on the death certificate (and it is a rule just now in the UK, for example, if anybody tests "positive" on tests that are so unreliable as to be close to random and they die for any reason within the next 28 days, "covid" must be shown as the cause of death on the death certificate regardless of the real cause of death - what a great way of making it appear people are dying from a disease that may not even exist!) then why:
1) can the virus not be isolated? Dr Andrew Kaufman has explained in a recent interview that this would not be very difficult to do.
2) can no scientific proof be offered, e.g. by satisfying Koch's postulates, that the virus that is said to exist causes the disease? Again, Dr Andew Kaufman claims there is not a single study that shows this.

A further point that Kaufman raises is why in the US very few autopsies are being conducted, despite this being mandated by law at times of public health crises. The only reason, as I see it, is that if they conducted autopsies they would reveal that many if not all people shown as having died of covid on death certificates in fact died of other causes.

Otherwise, the global disaster is real. The economy has been destroyed and many small businesses have collapsed. All because of a disproportionate response to a disease less deadly than the flu, if it is not entirely a hoax.

I can give a link to the Kaufman interview if anyone is interested.

[Get Real!]

Can you explain to me how Cyprus with a population of about 1 million has now more new cases of Covid than ALL of Australia with a population of 26 million? Only a month ago we were making headlines because of Melbourne.

If you mean why Cyprus reports 17 new cases today while Australia only registered 13 today, it depends on many things…

ie: Cyprus is very close to Europe so every plane load of passengers landing is a high risk and most of these new cases you read about in Cyprus are foreign passengers landing at CY airports.

[Get Real!]

...why:
1) can the virus not be isolated? Dr Andrew Kaufman has explained in a recent interview that this would not be very difficult to do.
2) can no scientific proof be offered, e.g. by satisfying Koch's postulates, that the virus that is said to exist causes the disease? Again, Dr Andew Kaufman claims there is not a single study that shows this.

Early this year I posted (with supporting links) that I felt the virus to be man-made… an American bio-weapon against China that somehow escaped. This would explain the two points you raise.

A further point that Kaufman raises is why in the US very few autopsies are being conducted, despite this being mandated by law at times of public health crises. The only reason, as I see it, is that if they conducted autopsies they would reveal that many if not all people shown as having died of covid on death certificates in fact died of other causes.

Otherwise, the global disaster is real. The economy has been destroyed and many small businesses have collapsed. All because of a disproportionate response to a disease less deadly than the flu, if it is not entirely a hoax.

I can give a link to the Kaufman interview if anyone is interested.

I don't know the nitty-gritty details of the American "death procedure', but I can tell you that it would be impossible for the 250 odd governments on the planet to enter such a conspiracy.

In fact Turkey yesterday admitted that they don't even bother reporting positive covid tests unless there are also symptoms! So go figure how such a "global conspiracy" could possibly work...

[Paphitis]

Can you explain to me how Cyprus with a population of about 1 million has now more new cases of Covid than ALL of Australia with a population of 26 million? Only a month ago we were making headlines because of Melbourne.

If you mean why Cyprus reports 17 new cases today while Australia only registered 13 today, it depends on many things…

ie: Cyprus is very close to Europe so every plane load of passengers landing is a high risk and most of these new cases you read about in Cyprus are foreign passengers landing at CY airports.

Come off it Get Real. Geography has nothing to do with it other than both Cyprus and Australia being islands.

If you had the same response as Australia, Cyprus would be at zero transmission and zero cases each day because that is where Australia is at today in most parts except for Melbourne and Sydney which are major cities and recording singly digits today. Melbourne has 7 cases yesterday, the rest were in Sydney.

Plus, Australia has more links to Europe than Cyprus. Our airports like Melbourne, Brisbane and Sydney are major international Airports with flights from Europe coming in every 10 minutes. The air routes and airspace around Melbourne and Sydney among the busiest in the world. In fact the High Route between Melbourne and Sydney is the busiest air route in the world. Good fun fact for you. Busier than Newark, NYC, LA, Chicago, London, Frankfurt Dubai, and Singapore.

Maybe no more but that was always the case. Interesting huh?

The real reason why is because Cyprus’ and Europe’s COVID response is a hell of a lot different to Australia’s. Our Government is probably one of the strictest in the world. And the response seems to be geared towards eradication completely. Might not be the wisest responses because I find it hard to believe they can achieve it and even if they did, then what, but this seems to be the objective nonetheless. I guess they plan to leave things like this and believe there will be a vaccine.

[Get Real!]

Can you explain to me how Cyprus with a population of about 1 million has now more new cases of Covid than ALL of Australia with a population of 26 million? Only a month ago we were making headlines because of Melbourne.

If you mean why Cyprus reports 17 new cases today while Australia only registered 13 today, it depends on many things…

ie: Cyprus is very close to Europe so every plane load of passengers landing is a high risk and most of these new cases you read about in Cyprus are foreign passengers landing at CY airports.

Come off it Get Real. Geography has nothing to do with it other than both Cyprus and Australia being islands.

If you had the same response as Australia, Cyprus would be at zero transmission and zero cases each day because that is where Australia is at today in most parts except for Melbourne and Sydney which are major cities and recording singly digits today. Melbourne has 7 cases yesterday, the rest were in Sydney.

Plus, Australia has more links to Europe than Cyprus. Our airports like Melbourne, Brisbane and Sydney are major international Airports with flights from Europe coming in every 10 minutes. The air routes and airspace around Melbourne and Sydney among the busiest in the world. In fact the High Route between Melbourne and Sydney is the busiest air route in the world. Good fun fact for you. Busier than Newark, NYC, LA, Chicago, London, Frankfurt Dubai, and Singapore.

Maybe no more but that was always the case. Interesting huh?

The real reason why is because Cyprus’ and Europe’s COVID response is a hell of a lot different to Australia’s. Our Government is probably one of the strictest in the world. And the response seems to be geared towards eradication completely.

I’ll bet most of Australia’s positives are Australians but in Cyprus they’re almost always foreigners who just happen to land here (transit or otherwise)!