Tim Drayton wrote:This is what things have descended to in Victoria, Australia. Police viciously assault a man by the roadside as if they were a gang of thugs, including kicking him in the head. Come on people. Wake up from your trance and let's stop this global drift into fascism facilitated by a false perception that has been created about a disease no worse than the flu while we still can.
You are conflating the issues. The amount of excessive abuse of powers by police may be increased by measures brought in to limit covid spread, increased opportunity for such abuse, but it is not the cause of the problem.The problem of excessive abuse of police powers pre dates covid measures. The solution to this problem is not 'do not take any covid measures'. Some of us have been talking about this problem from before covid. You seemed to have only recently 'discovered it' specifically as an argument to not take measures re covid ?
Paphitis wrote:Oh I remember the debate and once again, Cardinal Pell was a victim of the disgusting culture war and the war against religions apart from Islam which seemingly get a free pass.
Your memory is warped. It was not about Cardinal Pell. It was about convicted former teachers at Geelong school. People like John Hamilton Buckley. cyprus47150-10.html#p889797
You can distort and disassemble all you like Paphtis, but what you actually said remains there in the record. You spent pages and pages trying to defend people like John Hamilton Buckley.
If he is convicted no problem. As long as the evidence is there to convict him. I got no issue with it.
But I recall you were questioning the validity of institutions like Geelong Grammar. It remains arguably the finest establishment in Australia. People pass through these organisations all the time and use them as a cover.
My children go to a private school that is owned by the same institution that owns Geelong Grammar. That is The Church of England or the Anglican Church. These schools are among the finest in Australia and probably among the finest in the world. I pay for it though. But I don’t regret taking my children there.
But back to HCF: you know, the drug President Trump thought was such a great idea, he started taking it as a precaution. The very sane drug that was prescribed in Australia for sufferers of Malaria, and Ross River Virus.
It was ok then, but some of the leftist states in Australia decided to ban it. Stupid idiots. The reason: because Trump endorses it.
Now, it has been proven by many studies that HCF decreases the COVID mortality rate by up to 73%
But the stupid Trump Deranged Commies won’t legalise it like it once was. I’m ok in Adelaide. We don’t have a left Premier. We have a right wing Premier here who is from the same party as our Federal Government and which is all aligned to Trump or the Republicans. So if I get COVID, I have access to HCF. Thank heavens because HCF by the sounds of it saves many lives.
One thing I’ve noticed. Right wing right now seems to be sane and methodical. Left wing or the Trump Deranged beling in an asylum for the institutionally mad.
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I never thought I would say it, but in Australia some of our premiers have gone all rogue.
Police State. You are not allowed to demonstrate. You are not allowed out of your house past 8pm.
Yesterday, VICPOL rammed a disabled man with severe autism. Sent him flying 2m. Then some coppers stomped on his head. He was rushed to hospital and is now in a coma.
And the media think that is ok. It would have been a different story if he was black.
I never thought I would say it, but in Australia some of our premiers have gone all rogue.
Police State. You are not allowed to demonstrate. You are not allowed out of your house past 8pm.
Yesterday, VICPOL rammed a disabled man with severe autism. Sent him flying 2m. Then some coppers stomped on his head. He was rushed to hospital and is now in a coma.
And the media think that is ok. It would have been a different story if he was black.
I remember some time ago you saying that the people in Oz would never stand for a police state. And, do you know what? I thought you were right.
Yes, I posted a video of the event you are describing further up.
There is alternative and more detailed footage at 27:30 on Monday's UK Column News of that beating the Victoria police dished out to an incapacitated man on a busy roadside - surely something that would have seemed impossible in a civilized country like Australia a few months ago - from a video taken by a passer by :
Tim Drayton wrote:This is what things have descended to in Victoria, Australia. Police viciously assault a man by the roadside as if they were a gang of thugs, including kicking him in the head. Come on people. Wake up from your trance and let's stop this global drift into fascism facilitated by a false perception that has been created about a disease no worse than the flu while we still can.
Tim, I did not read or heard that this incident had anything to do with Covid. How did you made that connection?
What I saw and explanation heard was about a man with some mental issues who was fucking with the police, and some of these cops being cunts that they are and the rest being corrupted motherfuckers, they started fucking with him, the gangsters that they are with a gun and a badge. Yes, many people supporting the political right believe the man got what he deserves, just like the two black guys who got shot in the back. Fuck, some even say that George Floyd had it coming to him. This has nothing to do with Covid but everything to do with Right wing leaders in the so-called Democratic countries like Morrison, Boris and Trump. These fuckers call it, “Law and Order” and their supporters call for more abuse of our rights by supporting these fucking leaders and supporting the police. The joke is, these deluded supporters of leaders as such think they are exempt from such police abuse because they are on the side of the Right wing government. Poor souls.
I never thought I would say it, but in Australia some of our premiers have gone all rogue.
Police State. You are not allowed to demonstrate. You are not allowed out of your house past 8pm.
Yesterday, VICPOL rammed a disabled man with severe autism. Sent him flying 2m. Then some coppers stomped on his head. He was rushed to hospital and is now in a coma.
And the media think that is ok. It would have been a different story if he was black.
I remember some time ago you saying that the people in Oz would never stand for a police state. And, do you know what? I thought you were right.
Yes, I posted a video of the event you are describing further up.
They aren’t. There are many demonstrations. There was a poll that was just released which indicated Daniel Andrews popularly has plummeted by 20%. This will translate to the biggest electoral collapse for Labor in Australian History.
People are defying the directives by not wearing masks, and the outrage on social media is extraordinary.
In my view, the Victorians and Queenslanders won’t stand for it. There is very little trust now between Australians and VICPOL and QPOL.
The other things that are occurring is massive class actions to The Federal Court. Yesterday, an Australian Family has issued court proceedings against Daniel Andrews over the possible impending foreclosure by a Bank on their home loan. The argument they are presenting is that his policies have resulted in loss of revenue for their family which has resulted in that making Daniel Andrews liable. I can only presume it’s a valid legal argument so it will be interesting to see how that one pans out. If this family is successful, then the flood gates will open.
There is another backlash against the MSM. Right now there is revolution in the air. But we also got to be realistic. There are curfews. You can be arrested for violating these curfews or for even demonstrating. That keeps people under control just from fear. It’s awful. But the demonstrations and civil disobedience is getting bigger and stronger week by week. I can technically be arrested for this post. People have been arrested for much less. Am I willing to go to a demonstration. No not yet. If I get arrested, I will go to court, get convicted and have a record. That has repercussions for me.
The MSM here is very biased towards Labor though. But they are paying the price. For instance, there seems to be double standards as well. Such as BLM, whilst only yesterday a disabled person was hideously dealt with by the Police. The MSM tried to not cover it, till Sky News (aka) Fox News blew the lid. The very media the MSM label as far right. Well they are Liberal, Tory and Republican supporting but they don’t even try to hide it but what’s concerning is the fact that Sky News aka FOX News seems to be the only free media we have. If you want to know what is really going on, you have to watch them in order to get some kind of real world picture.
We have also had people arrested in their own homes, including a pregnant mum just for making a Facebook Post. Police can search houses and vehicles with no warrants and they can stop people in the streets without any reason.
This is what the bedwetters have bought upon Australia. May they live in utter shame!
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