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[Get Real!]

...this guy is interesting.

And completely wrong, because death rates have NOT plummeted!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... eath-toll/

DailyDeaths.PNG

[Get Real!]

He doesn't actually say, "You were right CG!" but he may as well have done...

Deluded ++

[cyprusgrump]

He doesn't actually say, "You were right CG!" but he may as well have done...

Deluded ++

Denial, etc.

You are going to look such a cunt...

[Paphitis]

Just to provide perspective.

I'm currently in Melbourne. It's virtually under martial law now. Just one more rise in the level, then Melbourne is at a worse state than Greece was between 1967 to 1974. At this rate, under the State of Emergency, the citizens have no rights, no say in anything, do not have freedom of movement, and there is even a curfew after 8pm. The streets are empty apart from the very occasional car, and many police patrols.

We got stopped after 10pm. All vehicles get stopped which are seen by a police patrol. The police no longer require any warrant to search your vehicle or house. We were stopped and were asked what we were doing. We told them, gave them some documentation to verify our business and the police said good evening and let us go,

If we are comparing COVID numbers, Cyprus is today much worse in Melbourne and yet Cyprus has no lock down, Melbourne does and it's brutally tough.

So comparing Sweden let's say to Cyprus or Australia isn't an apples with apples. Sweden, for instance has more COVID Deaths, plus more COVID cases. But Melbournes unemployed has increased by well over 500,000 people. there is a social impact. people unable to pay their bills, their mortgages, and facing an uncertain future.

Then the mental health aspect. Whilst Melbourne had 24 COVID Deaths yesterday, all of them were over 70s.

What the authorities are not saying is how many suicides. People in their 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s with wives, children and so on. A high school child, aged 14, committed suicide as well, just from all the stress at school, and at home due to COVID with parents worried about putting food on the table.

In this regard, Sweden IS NOT doing worse than Australia which probably is on the top 3 to 4 nations in the world with regard to COVID.

Plus there is the economic aspect.

Cyprus, if it was serious, would be in a worse lock down than Melbourne because the COVID cases and numbers in Cyprus and Greece are much worse than in Melbourne which is now headed in the correct direction. But I do not wish that upon Cypriots. believe me, you do not want to head down Melbourne's path. I would suggest looking at Sweden very carefully and copying their model and going down that road.

COVID will NEVER be eliminated unless there is a vaccine and there may never be a vaccine that works.

Right now, the police in Melbourne, and the Government have more power than any dictator around the world.

Believe me, Sweden right now is heralded as having got the balance right, even in Australia. I think that is correct too.

[repulsewarrior]

...this guy is interesting.

And completely wrong, because death rates have NOT plummeted!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... eath-toll/

DailyDeaths.PNG

...death rates in Britain, among other news.

[Kikapu]

Just to provide perspective.

I'm currently in Melbourne. It's virtually under martial law now. Just one more rise in the level, then Melbourne is at a worse state than Greece was between 1967 to 1974. At this rate, under the State of Emergency, the citizens have no rights, no say in anything, do not have freedom of movement, and there is even a curfew after 8pm. The streets are empty apart from the very occasional car, and many police patrols.

We got stopped after 10pm. All vehicles get stopped which are seen by a police patrol. The police no longer require any warrant to search your vehicle or house. We were stopped and were asked what we were doing. We told them, gave them some documentation to verify our business and the police said good evening and let us go,

If we are comparing COVID numbers, Cyprus is today much worse in Melbourne and yet Cyprus has no lock down, Melbourne does and it's brutally tough.

So comparing Sweden let's say to Cyprus or Australia isn't an apples with apples. Sweden, for instance has more COVID Deaths, plus more COVID cases. But Melbournes unemployed has increased by well over 500,000 people. there is a social impact. people unable to pay their bills, their mortgages, and facing an uncertain future.

Then the mental health aspect. Whilst Melbourne had 24 COVID Deaths yesterday, all of them were over 70s.

What the authorities are not saying is how many suicides. People in their 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s with wives, children and so on. A high school child, aged 14, committed suicide as well, just from all the stress at school, and at home due to COVID with parents worried about putting food on the table.

In this regard, Sweden IS NOT doing worse than Australia which probably is on the top 3 to 4 nations in the world with regard to COVID.

Plus there is the economic aspect.

Cyprus, if it was serious, would be in a worse lock down than Melbourne because the COVID cases and numbers in Cyprus and Greece are much worse than in Melbourne which is now headed in the correct direction. But I do not wish that upon Cypriots. believe me, you do not want to head down Melbourne's path. I would suggest looking at Sweden very carefully and copying their model and going down that road.

COVID will NEVER be eliminated unless there is a vaccine and there may never be a vaccine that works.

Right now, the police in Melbourne, and the Government have more power than any dictator around the world.

Believe me, Sweden right now is heralded as having got the balance right, even in Australia. I think that is correct too.

Why can’t Victoria state follow the same rules as the rest of the states in Australia?

In whole of Europe and most parts of the world there are no lockdowns despite increased in new cases and death numbers, however, there are some safety measures imposed in the areas of social distancing, wearing of masks and self quarantine if traveled to certain countries or exposed to someone who has Covid virus. Sweden is not the only “free” country at the moment. I do think Melbourne has gone to the very extreme measures at the moment as it is not necessary to that extent.

[Londonrake]

It’s all contentious I know but a few interesting points I thought, nevertheless:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... own-folly/

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[Paphitis]

Just to provide perspective.

I'm currently in Melbourne. It's virtually under martial law now. Just one more rise in the level, then Melbourne is at a worse state than Greece was between 1967 to 1974. At this rate, under the State of Emergency, the citizens have no rights, no say in anything, do not have freedom of movement, and there is even a curfew after 8pm. The streets are empty apart from the very occasional car, and many police patrols.

We got stopped after 10pm. All vehicles get stopped which are seen by a police patrol. The police no longer require any warrant to search your vehicle or house. We were stopped and were asked what we were doing. We told them, gave them some documentation to verify our business and the police said good evening and let us go,

If we are comparing COVID numbers, Cyprus is today much worse in Melbourne and yet Cyprus has no lock down, Melbourne does and it's brutally tough.

So comparing Sweden let's say to Cyprus or Australia isn't an apples with apples. Sweden, for instance has more COVID Deaths, plus more COVID cases. But Melbournes unemployed has increased by well over 500,000 people. there is a social impact. people unable to pay their bills, their mortgages, and facing an uncertain future.

Then the mental health aspect. Whilst Melbourne had 24 COVID Deaths yesterday, all of them were over 70s.

What the authorities are not saying is how many suicides. People in their 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s with wives, children and so on. A high school child, aged 14, committed suicide as well, just from all the stress at school, and at home due to COVID with parents worried about putting food on the table.

In this regard, Sweden IS NOT doing worse than Australia which probably is on the top 3 to 4 nations in the world with regard to COVID.

Plus there is the economic aspect.

Cyprus, if it was serious, would be in a worse lock down than Melbourne because the COVID cases and numbers in Cyprus and Greece are much worse than in Melbourne which is now headed in the correct direction. But I do not wish that upon Cypriots. believe me, you do not want to head down Melbourne's path. I would suggest looking at Sweden very carefully and copying their model and going down that road.

COVID will NEVER be eliminated unless there is a vaccine and there may never be a vaccine that works.

Right now, the police in Melbourne, and the Government have more power than any dictator around the world.

Believe me, Sweden right now is heralded as having got the balance right, even in Australia. I think that is correct too.

Why can’t Victoria state follow the same rules as the rest of the states in Australia?

In whole of Europe and most parts of the world there are no lockdowns despite increased in new cases and death numbers, however, there are some safety measures imposed in the areas of social distancing, wearing of masks and self quarantine if traveled to certain countries or exposed to someone who has Covid virus. Sweden is not the only “free” country at the moment. I do think Melbourne has gone to the very extreme measures at the moment as it is not necessary to that extent.

The State Premiers have gone bonkers and are closing their borders as if they are countries in their own right within the country of Australia.

Australia is very much like US and Canada. Each State has its own Government, police force and justice systems.

One State, Victoria, even resisted or refused help from the Federal Government. It didn’t want assistance from the ADF.

The most recalcitrant is Victoria by far. Then West Australia, and after that it’s Queensland.

Situation that happened in Australia is similar to the US with States making up their own rules.

We actually now have a situation in Melbourne bordering fascism. People are making posts on Facebook about going for walks and you can see unmarked police cars watching people. You are only allowed to walk with one other member of your family.

It’s an absolute disgrace.

The Federal Government could step in. There are now calls for Daniel Andrews to resign. He is refusing to do so which means the Australian Monarch May have to get involved and sack them and dissolve parliament.

What we need in Australia right now, is a Trump figure to slap the states down like the bitches they are!

The police have been given extra ordinary powers at this stage. That’s in accordance with an actual state of emergency. It really isn’t their fault. They are only performing their job as per the rules and following their orders and instructions.

But it isn’t nice at all.

[Paphitis]

The reason why the are doing it is for political expediency. The Oremiers believe that by having a tough stance and licking down, they can virtue signal about keeping us safe. And that they will win the next elections. It appeared to be the case early on.

But those who’s active freedom for safety, deserve no freedom nor safety. Who said that?

It is however wishful thinking. There is going to be a big back lash against mostly lefty Premiers. The right wing Premiers are less inclined to trample on freedoms. Left has become worse than NAZI like. Go figure.

The big winner is Morrison or the Fed Government.

[repulsewarrior]

...dosage strength,

...bemusing at best, but WHO got it wrong, it's all very strange.

...why did their studies find much deadlier results, Dr. John, speaks well for himself.

...only low dose therapy, (correct dose), provides significant benefit: literally costs peanuts; oops.

...dismissed originally, but at a much larger dose than the Formulary prescribes, means: who are the elite got it completely wrong: their doses were toxic.

...treatment, with a proper dose, will one hopes be studied by WHO (and Oxford) again, although the time lost, (the 'why' in that,) that too must be reckoned with.

...it does not bode well when in anticipation of a vaccine that is an end to this pandemic, that this kind of confusion exposes plain ineptness in finding remedies.