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Postby Kikapu » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:50 am

Most cancer patients get discovered through routine check-up and without symptoms also, and if left untreated, it is deadly. If some Covid patients were not discovered and treated, many would also just drop dead in the streets, as many may have done in undeveloped countries.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:12 am

Kikapu wrote:Most cancer patients get discovered through routine check-up and without symptoms also, and if left untreated, it is deadly. If some Covid patients were not discovered and treated, many would also just drop dead in the streets, as many may have done in undeveloped countries.


I suspect most fatalities would show signs of Symptoms first.
The normal progression of the illness is that after infection one may have a two to fourteen day period within which one is without obvious symptoms. This is a dangerous time as it is the time in which the virus can become most infectious of other people , typically peaking about four days after infection.

Then a variety of symptoms can develop, though some people never show symptoms , principally a Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, ie coughing, breathing difficulties, etc . It can take from 5 to seven days from the onset of symptoms for the severity to develop, and typically 8 to 11 days for it to become severe enough to require hospitalisation, and typically another two days before treatment in an ICU may be needed, typically about 17 days after infection, but as little as ten days. Then people start dying, typically 5 to 7 days after admission to an ICU, say btween three and four weeks after infection, or they get better,

There will be unreported cases, and deaths, in particular in places where health care is not widely available or expensive, and preople think they will get over it, but the prospect therefore is that few would simply drop dead in the street, most will have been ill first, probably quite ill and, if they die will likely die in bed.



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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Kikapu » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:21 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Most cancer patients get discovered through routine check-up and without symptoms also, and if left untreated, it is deadly. If some Covid patients were not discovered and treated, many would also just drop dead in the streets, as many may have done in undeveloped countries.


I suspect most fatalities would show signs of Symptoms first.
The normal progression of the illness is that after infection one may have a two to fourteen day period within which one is without obvious symptoms. This is a dangerous time as it is the time in which the virus can become most infectious of other people , typically peaking about four days after infection.

Then a variety of symptoms can develop, though some people never show symptoms , principally a Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, ie coughing, breathing difficulties, etc . It can take from 5 to seven days from the onset of symptoms for the severity to develop, and typically 8 to 11 days for it to become severe enough to require hospitalisation, and typically another two days before treatment in an ICU may be needed, typically about 17 days after infection, but as little as ten days. Then people start dying, typically 5 to 7 days after admission to an ICU, say btween three and four weeks after infection, or they get better,

There will be unreported cases, and deaths, in particular in places where health care is not widely available or expensive, and preople think they will get over it, but the prospect therefore is that few would simply drop dead in the street, most will have been ill first, probably quite ill and, if they die will likely die in bed.



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Nicely put. Thanks.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:24 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:Mate, people with Spanish Flu sometimes dropped dead in the street...

Lots of videos on U-tube of Chinese dropping dead on the streets from Covid, where have you been?

cyprusgrump wrote:Most people with Covid need a test to know they have it... :wink:

That only indicates how evil this virus is... it uses some people strictly as carriers; a smart virus wouldn’t want to kill off all victims.

cyprusgrump wrote:You really should read some of the stuff the non-believers post here instead of relying on the BBC and making your idiotic 'Guido' remarks... :?

Read “stuff” from the junk sites you frequent where more morons like yourself are posting their 2c worth?

I don’t think so... :)
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:02 pm

Get Real! wrote:Read “stuff” from the junk sites you frequent where more morons like yourself are posting their 2c worth?

I don’t think so... :)


No, you're right GR, you should stick to being spoon-fed bollox by the BBC... :wink:

I'll continue posting my stuff and you can configure your clever browser to ignore it I'm sure....
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:12 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Read “stuff” from the junk sites you frequent where more morons like yourself are posting their 2c worth?

I don’t think so... :)


No, you're right GR, you should stick to being spoon-fed bollox by the BBC... :wink:

I'll continue posting my stuff and you can configure your clever browser to ignore it I'm sure....

The BBC posts its credible sources...

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Now let's take a look at yours...

1. Websites like Guido.com

2. Scientific discussions at your virtual pub website.

3. Your incredible brain.

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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Get Real! » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:25 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:I'll continue posting my stuff and you can configure your clever browser to ignore it I'm sure....

By all means do so... but in turn, I too reserve the right to rub your face in the mud 24/7 for our entertainment. :lol:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Londonrake » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:46 pm

I wouldn’t underestimate his brain. He left when it was his round. :( :lol: :wink:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:47 pm

For the skeptics like cyprusgrump:
Let's take the Roc statistics with a population of about 1 million):
About 1500 infected, about 300 needed medical care (20%), and about 20 died (1.5%).

The virus is infectious like hell, in fact living/working/associating in the same room with an infected person gives you near 100% chance of getting infected yourself too. Remember the woman who came from America and infected about 40 persons within a week by breaking her own quarantine?

Now let's assume we wouldn't take any precautions and let it spead among the population until 60% of the population would have been infected as some geniuses in the UK and US initially suggested. Within a year we would have 120,000 needing medical attention (328 per day) and 9000 deaths (25 per day) from this desease alone. The medical system would collapse and we would burry twice as many of the newborn.

The numbers speak for themselves. There's no hysteria whatsoever. There is only common sense, and very easy to follow precautions, to keep the effects down to the minimum.

It causes pneumonia damn it one of the most serious deseases, survivors suffer for upto a year+ before returing to normal.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:55 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:For the skeptics like cyprusgrump:
Let's take the Roc statistics with a population of about 1 million):
About 1500 infected, about 300 needed medical care (20%), and about 20 died (1.5%).

The virus is infectious like hell, in fact living/working/associating in the same room with an infected person gives you near 100% chance of getting infected yourself too. Remember the woman who came from America and infected about 40 persons within a week by breaking her own quarantine?

Now let's assume we wouldn't take any precautions and let it spead among the population until 60% of the population would have been infected as some geniuses in the UK and US initially suggested. Within a year we would have 120,000 needing medical attention (328 per day) and 9000 deaths (25 per day) from this desease alone.

The numbers speak for themselves. There's no hysteria whatsoever. There is only common sense, and very easy to follow precautions, to keep the effects down to the minimum.

It causes pneumonia damn it one of the most serious deseases, survivors suffer for upto a year+ before returing to normal.


So Sweden then...? :?
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