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[erolz66]

The whole 'it's the Illuminati' conspiracy bullshit is just a way to abdicate personal responsibility for anything whilst allowing those that feed off such nonsense to feel 'special' imho and it is also a gross insult to the memory of the 3/4 of a million people around the world who have already died from this virus and their family, friends and loved ones. I am embarrassed at how much time I have spent historically in this thread working on the assumption that TD was not such a person. Have learnt my lesson now.

I regret to say that this is another straw man argument. I have not used the term "illuminati" on this thread, nor is it a term that I am accustomed to using.

Not wasting any more time with you Tim. You posted a link to henrymakow dot com site, with the word Illuminati in the url and on the title page of the link and Henry Markow is the leading Illuminati conspiracy theory spreader. You are welcome to cite, believe, promote such utter bullshit if you like but if you do , do not then try and deny your post were anything to do with such BS and do not expect any respect from me in regards to such views.

Curious as to how you view Robert F. Kennedy Jr., somebody who with his sharp legal mind could have made a mint representing corporate issues but instead has devoted his life to fighting for the interests of the underdog against powerful corporations in environmental and health issues, scoring many remarkable victories along the way.

If you were curious what I or anyone else thought about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. then you probably would have been better off not linking to a site of the world leading Illuminati conspiracy theorist, headed "Illuminati Vowed in 1969: "Travel Will Be More Difficult" and quoting from that 'article' about the Illuminati, where he explains "Like sheep, humanity had better adjust to constant harassment as long as it tolerates Illuminati control of all important government and social institutions.". The page you linked to mentions Illuminati 20 separate times. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is mentioned once, not in the article but 2/3 rds of the way down the page on a side bar quoting a tweet. If you had wanted people to talk about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. there are countless links you could have used that would not have required linking to and quoting from a professional Illuminati conspiracy nutter.

[Tim Drayton]

Well it looks like the UK is the forerunner in finding a vaccine.

Australian Government just signed a 1.3 billion memorandum with the vaccine being tested with Oxford University, and a Pharmaceutical company.

The PM announced the vaccines will be offered to every citizen free of charge.

So what an endorsement that is for the UK vaccine candidate.

There are other vaccines, including one in testing in Australia, but the UK one is purported to be the most promising.

When told about Russia's vaccine, the PM just laughed but refused to make a comment.

So well done UK. If you pull it off, then well done.

Funny, look as hard as I do, I can never find any mention of the price tag in these news stories. Glad to see you sounding so relaxed about hard-earned Australian tax payers' money flowing into Astrazeneca's coffers for a potential vaccine - one still under development that may never come to fruition! That's one amazing transfer of wealth that's going on bit by bit.

[erolz66]

Funny, look as hard as I do, I can never find any mention of the price tag in these news stories.

Just shows how hard you actually look when it suits you to not see.

https://www.google.com.cy/search?source ... 0kkiTGKJQI

[erolz66]

When the virus dies out (as it is doing rapidly almost everywhere)

24 June 2020

7 day average for daily global confirmed positives - 154,472
7 day average for daily global deaths - 4813

August 3rd (41 days on)

7 day average for daily global confirmed positives - 256,363 (65% increase vs 24 June)
7 day average for daily global deaths - 5653 (17.45% increase vs 24 June)

August 7th (45 days on)

7 day average for daily global confirmed positives - 254,222 (64% increase vs 24 June)
7 day average for daily global deaths - 5857 (21.69% increase vs 24 June)

August 13th (51 days on)

7 day average for daily global confirmed positives - 258,415 (67% increase vs 24 June)
7 day average for daily global deaths - 5848 (21.5% increase vs 24 June)

August 19th (57 days on)

7 day average for daily global confirmed positives - 256,278(66% increase vs 24 June)
7 day average for daily global deaths - 6218 (29% increase vs 24 June)

Rapidly dying out almost everywhere, my arse ! Only in your head if you are a twat that ignores actual evidence to date.

[repulsewarrior]

...another reason to be cautious; Turkey as an example of opening their doors too soon.

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... ntrol.html

...rising cases, as public gatherings are allowed.

[Paphitis]

Well it looks like the UK is the forerunner in finding a vaccine.

Australian Government just signed a 1.3 billion memorandum with the vaccine being tested with Oxford University, and a Pharmaceutical company.

The PM announced the vaccines will be offered to every citizen free of charge.

So what an endorsement that is for the UK vaccine candidate.

There are other vaccines, including one in testing in Australia, but the UK one is purported to be the most promising.

When told about Russia's vaccine, the PM just laughed but refused to make a comment.

So well done UK. If you pull it off, then well done.

Funny, look as hard as I do, I can never find any mention of the price tag in these news stories. Glad to see you sounding so relaxed about hard-earned Australian tax payers' money flowing into Astrazeneca's coffers for a potential vaccine - one still under development that may never come to fruition! That's one amazing transfer of wealth that's going on bit by bit.

I’m not relaxed about it. But the world does need a vaccine. As long it’s a legit vaccine that works and isn’t laced with other stuff.

My eyes are wide open. I haven’t ruled out anything, including the possibility that this is all part of a scheme to erode freedoms and or as a population control exercise.

I haven’t had the time yet, but I want to know if this Pharma company has a relationship with Bill Gates. If so, I feel very uneasy about taking any vaccine associated with a man who believes the world’s population needs to be culled to 2 billion people. Yes Bill Gates said that. Not bad for a so called philanthropist. Maybe a philanthropist to 2 billion but not to the other 5 billion.

A poll was done to see if people will take the vaccine. Over 40% of people said no. They are now being portrayed as the anti vaxxer “loonies”. Most of them are not anti vaxxers and have taken flu shots. But they cite concerns over the limited time of research and development and not knowing long term side effects. I think these concerns are reasonable concerns to have, but if you believe the mainstream media they are portrayed as selfish.

I want to see our leaders and journos line up first in front of cameras.

The debate is all very academic right now as we do not even know if the vaccine will achieve its objectives. I hope it does. But we are early days in testing.

As for the cost. It’s literally a pittance compared to the actual cost of the lock downs and downturn in economy. It could be the best money spent if it actually does solve the issue and everything goes back to normal. However, as I said before, I’m not prepared to say your position is a conspiracy. I’m not convinced it is a conspiracy. People need to be smart and vigilant. Also understand that our lives and the welfare of our families do not matter to the corporates or people like Bill Gates.

It’s also very ironic. Right now, there is only one man on the side of all of us and he is being demonized. That man is Trump.

[Paphitis]

I’ve been around the traps many times. I also know that money and power as well as control is the root cause of all evil.

If anyone has the misconception that our leaders or the corporates care about us, then they are mistaken. The media is tied into this evil.

As a result, people need to proceed with caution. Look into things deeply.

Nothing I would like more than a vaccine that works 100% and has nothing sinister about it. I obviously want a vaccine. And the company that comes up with such a wonderful thing would have earned their money.

But I have concerns which are not being answered. Such as:

what role has Gates played?

What are the ingredients of the vaccine?

What are the long term affects of the vaccine?

Is it really effective? Will it prevent me from getting COVID? How long does it last for?

Will COVID 19 evolve to beat the vaccine?

Will our freedoms return back to normal?

Is this a population control exercise? Sounds like tin foil stuff but the way I see it, everyone should be asking these questions.

As a pilot though, I am naturally inclined to support a vaccine if and when I am convinced about all these questions and probably many more questions I haven’t thought of yet.

I mean at this point, people should be worried about the potential of growing and extra 2 testacles or growing man boobs or worse, firing from some cancer in 5 years time. If people want to dismiss these concerns flippantly, then all I can say as that an extra pair might do them some good.

[Kikapu]

There will be plenty of independent labs testing these vaccines to see what they really are, so we do not need to just take the word of the big Pharma and the government alone.

[Paphitis]

There will be plenty of independent labs testing these vaccines to see what they really are, so we do not need to just take the word of the big Pharma and the government alone.

Independent might not be so independent if Big Pharma with Bill Gates put a few million under the table for these labs.

It’s literally pocket change for them. And there isn’t a lot of transparency to be able to detect any conflict of interests as much as we would like to pretend otherwise.

[Paphitis]

In the end, someone will but many samples and pay to do their own lab tests. And if they find something, become a whistleblower.

The media will try and destroy their reputation and question his mental faculties. That’s part and parcel for rejecting the common narrative these days.

Much like you guys question and dismiss Tim’s views and opinions as conspiracies of the Illuminati.

Much like the global media question Trump.

It’s done with so much expertise and in a subtle manner. It’s actually mind control, rape or brain washing. Everyone is pushed towards a particular narrative. For example. Trump is stupid. Obiden and Camela the smartest and most inspiring people.

Just like in that video I posted. Trump tweets he may need to postpone the elections for COVID, is lambasted. Justinta Arduous, does the same and is applauded by all the pundits.

That’s how it is done.

And this is why Trump is going to win.