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Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:06 am

erolz66 wrote:In terms of looking to South Korea as the only large democratic country (50 million) to so far succeed in getting of the exponential, and trying to emulate their success then the kind of numbers that matter are not 'infections per million and the like'. They are things like 'targeted testing per million' which as of 17th march was 5200 per million in South Korea and 74 per million in the US.

Questions that should be being asked of governments, all of them, Cypriot, UK, Australian, US , and and , is where are things like

The national mobile phone alert system warns residents of the respective districts or localities when a fresh case is detected and carries a link to detailed information about the last few places which the patient had passed through. This alerts people who have visited the areas to monitor and report possible symptoms.


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The government has developed two mobile phone applications to follow potential patients, with one of them being mandatory for people arriving in South Korea from high-risk areas – currently China, Hong Kong, Macao, Iran and the entirety of Europe – who are forced to answer daily questions about their possible symptoms.

The app forwards users to telecalling executives for arranging testing if they report developing symptoms.

The other app warns public officials whenever someone in quarantine leaves the isolation zone, although this depends on personal responsibility as downloading the application is not mandatory.


Emulating such things is first order priority. More important that sourcing more ventilators and ppe and the like, which are important but can only mitigate the worst outcomes of being on the curve, not get a country off it.


It isn't the only democratic country to so far succeed. it seems South Korea is joined by Australia as of today with detections decreasing by 60% or more.

We will be lending as much help to our American friends as soon as we can.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:12 am

Paphitis wrote:It isn't the only democratic country to so far succeed. it seems South Korea is joined by Australia as of today with detections decreasing by 60% or more.

We will be lending as much help to our American friends as soon as we can.


It IS the only country to show such on the chart that started this all off (thanks again RW possibly the single most important link ever posted on this site I am starting to think). If Australia does join SK as the 2nd such country to show such progress on this chart I will be over the moon for Australia and be shouting from the roof tops about the importance of other countries following both Australia and SK example. I will not however be doing that before such is shown in the data on the chart based on your assurance that it is just about to show such, because you can not analyse you way of of a paper bag or a zip file imo and are drenched in political dogma and ideology.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:20 am

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:It isn't the only democratic country to so far succeed. it seems South Korea is joined by Australia as of today with detections decreasing by 60% or more.

We will be lending as much help to our American friends as soon as we can.


It IS the only country to show such on the chart that started this all off (thanks again RW possibly the single most important link ever posted on this site I am starting to think). If Australia does join SK as the 2nd such country to show such progress on this chart I will be over the moon for Australia and be shouting from the roof tops about the importance of other countries following both Australia and SK example. I will not however be doing that before such is shown in the data on the chart based on your assurance that it is just about to show such, because you can not analyse you way of of a paper bag or a zip file imo and are drenched in political dogma and ideology.


no it's NOT! Read the news reports and look at the statistics for the last 2 weeks for Australia.

Australia was exponential until about 5 days ago, but our detections have fallen off the cliff edge.

Look at the curve. It's changing direction. And look at the stats.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... australia/

If Australia keeps tracking like that, I am very happy. Every Australian should feel happy. We feel encouraged and optimistic too.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:41 am

Paphitis wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:It isn't the only democratic country to so far succeed. it seems South Korea is joined by Australia as of today with detections decreasing by 60% or more.

We will be lending as much help to our American friends as soon as we can.


It IS the only country to show such on the chart that started this all off (thanks again RW possibly the single most important link ever posted on this site I am starting to think). If Australia does join SK as the 2nd such country to show such progress on this chart I will be over the moon for Australia and be shouting from the roof tops about the importance of other countries following both Australia and SK example. I will not however be doing that before such is shown in the data on the chart based on your assurance that it is just about to show such, because you can not analyse you way of of a paper bag or a zip file imo and are drenched in political dogma and ideology.


no it's NOT! Read the news reports and look at the statistics for the last 2 weeks for Australia.

Australia was exponential until about 5 days ago, but our detections have fallen off the cliff edge.

Look at the curve. It's changing direction. And look at the stats.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... australia/

If Australia keeps tracking like that, I am very happy. Every Australian should feel happy. We feel encouraged and optimistic too.


I am talking about showing on THE chart. All the things you report are great. I am happy. They may well be a precursor to the impact showing on THE chart and if they are no one will be happier than me. But as of right now they are NOT showing on THE chart.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:46 am

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:It isn't the only democratic country to so far succeed. it seems South Korea is joined by Australia as of today with detections decreasing by 60% or more.

We will be lending as much help to our American friends as soon as we can.


It IS the only country to show such on the chart that started this all off (thanks again RW possibly the single most important link ever posted on this site I am starting to think). If Australia does join SK as the 2nd such country to show such progress on this chart I will be over the moon for Australia and be shouting from the roof tops about the importance of other countries following both Australia and SK example. I will not however be doing that before such is shown in the data on the chart based on your assurance that it is just about to show such, because you can not analyse you way of of a paper bag or a zip file imo and are drenched in political dogma and ideology.


no it's NOT! Read the news reports and look at the statistics for the last 2 weeks for Australia.

Australia was exponential until about 5 days ago, but our detections have fallen off the cliff edge.

Look at the curve. It's changing direction. And look at the stats.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... australia/

If Australia keeps tracking like that, I am very happy. Every Australian should feel happy. We feel encouraged and optimistic too.


I am talking about showing on THE chart. All the things you report are great. I am happy. They may well be a precursor to the impact showing on THE chart and if they are no one will be happier than me. But as of right now they are NOT showing on THE chart.


Oh dear, the statistician strikes again with another whopper!

For it to show on the graph, you need to extend the X Axis and the only way that can happen is with time. So in 10 days time, and presuming the trend is maintained, Australia's graph will look like South Korea's. The other way is to look at the statistics and also look at the new cases graph (if you want a picture) which is in the same link. It shows a dramatic decline. Look again.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... australia/

As you can see, Australia definately hasn't been exponential for 6 days running now, and today it looks like it will be 7 days as they are about to record another good number. To me it shows we are IN CONTROL.

get the picture Einstein?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:53 am

Paphitis wrote:Oh dear, the statistician strikes again with another whopper!

For it to show on the graph, you need to extend the X Axis and the only way that can happen is with time. So in 10 days time, and presuming the trend is maintained, Australia's graph will look like South Korea's. The other way is to look at the statistics and also look at the new cases graph (if you want a picture) which is in the same link. It shows a dramatic decline. Look again.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... australia/

As you can see, Australia definately hasn't been exponential for 6 days running now, and today it looks like it will be 7 days as they are about to record another good number. To me it shows we are IN CONTROL.

get the picture Einstein?


THE chart does not have time on either axis Einstein. You have not even understood that yet, which is all explained in the video, that you claim to agree with and 'knew already'. Keep digging.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:02 am

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Oh dear, the statistician strikes again with another whopper!

For it to show on the graph, you need to extend the X Axis and the only way that can happen is with time. So in 10 days time, and presuming the trend is maintained, Australia's graph will look like South Korea's. The other way is to look at the statistics and also look at the new cases graph (if you want a picture) which is in the same link. It shows a dramatic decline. Look again.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... australia/

As you can see, Australia definately hasn't been exponential for 6 days running now, and today it looks like it will be 7 days as they are about to record another good number. To me it shows we are IN CONTROL.

get the picture Einstein?


THE chart does not have time on either axis Einstein. You have not even understood that yet, which is all explained in the video, that you claim to agree with and 'knew already'. Keep digging.


It does in my graph I posted Einstein which depicts exponential growth as a bending upwards curve.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... australia/

The graph in the video doesn't show time on the X Axis which is also my preferred method because it depicts exponential growth as a straight line.

You really are an Einstein aren't you?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Kikapu » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:31 pm

Paphitis wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Oh dear, the statistician strikes again with another whopper!

For it to show on the graph, you need to extend the X Axis and the only way that can happen is with time. So in 10 days time, and presuming the trend is maintained, Australia's graph will look like South Korea's. The other way is to look at the statistics and also look at the new cases graph (if you want a picture) which is in the same link. It shows a dramatic decline. Look again.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... australia/

As you can see, Australia definately hasn't been exponential for 6 days running now, and today it looks like it will be 7 days as they are about to record another good number. To me it shows we are IN CONTROL.

get the picture Einstein?


THE chart does not have time on either axis Einstein. You have not even understood that yet, which is all explained in the video, that you claim to agree with and 'knew already'. Keep digging.


It does in my graph I posted Einstein which depicts exponential growth as a bending upwards curve.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... australia/

The graph in the video doesn't show time on the X Axis which is also my preferred method because it depicts exponential growth as a straight line.

You really are an Einstein aren't you?


I hate to rain on anyone’s parade, but what the graphs may show for Australia’s Coronavirus numbers are meaningless unless someone can tell me with certainty that the numbers tested in the last 4 days are equal or greater than the numbers tested before the last 4 days. So, let’s have less talk on the chart’s meanings and more talk on the numbers tested.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:55 pm

Kikapu wrote:I hate to rain on anyone’s parade, but what the graphs may show for Australia’s Coronavirus numbers are meaningless unless someone can tell me with certainty that the numbers tested in the last 4 days are equal or greater than the numbers tested before the last 4 days. So, let’s have less talk on the chart’s meanings and more talk on the numbers tested.


Have you watched the youtube video RW posted yet Kikapun https://youtu.be/54XLXg4fYsc ? Looked at and played with the interactive data analysis site that it is describing ? https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/

If not I would urge you, as someone who imo is not a total donkey, to do so.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Kikapu » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:10 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I hate to rain on anyone’s parade, but what the graphs may show for Australia’s Coronavirus numbers are meaningless unless someone can tell me with certainty that the numbers tested in the last 4 days are equal or greater than the numbers tested before the last 4 days. So, let’s have less talk on the chart’s meanings and more talk on the numbers tested.


Have you watched the youtube video RW posted yet Kikapun https://youtu.be/54XLXg4fYsc ? Looked at and played with the interactive data analysis site that it is describing ? https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/

If not I would urge you, as someone who imo is not a total donkey, to do so.


I did watch the YouTube RW posted. I was mainly commenting the 4 days of stats Paphitis was bragging that the Coronavirus cases were dropping.
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