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[Paphitis]

Here you go Bedwetters....

Trump and Bolsonaro has questioned Coronavirus crises and look how “well” their countries are doing!

Yes, I heard some hysterical reporting about Brazil on this morning's Today programme - once a source a rational information - from the Bill Gates Foundation-funded BBC. So many cases, shock horror! (Sounds like a high figure until you realize that Brazil's population is more than 200 million and the number of cases is a tiny proportion of that.) But ... what's the problem with a lot of cases of a flu-like virus with an infection fatality ratio less than that of the common flu? It happens every year.

You know, it would make so much more sense for Bill Gates and the big Pharma to look for a vaccine to the killer common cold than the silly Covid-19 as they can make $$$$ trillions $$$$ since more people are affected, no?

the flu vaccine is already a multi Billion dollar industry for Big Pharma.

Now, in Australia, Big Pharma are trying to make Electronic Cigarettes illegal on the premise that we must protect children from these devices because they are a gateway to smoking. They are not a gateway. It's a gateway from smoking to not smoking. And it is the most effective smoke cessation means currently on the market.

But the EC market has destroyed Champix, patches and nicotine capsules. A billion dollar industry wiped out and Big Pharma is upset and taking their war on Electronic Cigarettes.

They don't actually care about the public's health. it's about profits. They want people to smoke and get hooked and then to be taking their nicotine replacement drugs and patches.

It's like Cancer. Imagine if they found a cure for cancer. Their radio therapy drugs industry would be wiped out.

[Tim Drayton]

Here you go Bedwetters....

Trump and Bolsonaro has questioned Coronavirus crises and look how “well” their countries are doing!

Yes, I heard some hysterical reporting about Brazil on this morning's Today programme - once a source a rational information - from the Bill Gates Foundation-funded BBC. So many cases, shock horror! (Sounds like a high figure until you realize that Brazil's population is more than 200 million and the number of cases is a tiny proportion of that.) But ... what's the problem with a lot of cases of a flu-like virus with an infection fatality ratio less than that of the common flu? It happens every year.

You know, it would make so much more sense for Bill Gates and the big Pharma to look for a vaccine to the killer common cold than the silly Covid-19 as they can make $$$$ trillions $$$$ since more people are affected, no?

the flu vaccine is already a multi Billion dollar industry for Big Pharma.

Now, in Australia, Big Pharma are trying to make Electronic Cigarettes illegal on the premise that we must protect children from these devices because they are a gateway to smoking. They are not a gateway. It's a gateway from smoking to not smoking. And it is the most effective smoke cessation means currently on the market.

But the EC market has destroyed Champix, patches and nicotine capsules. A billion dollar industry wiped out and Big Pharma is upset and taking their war on Electronic Cigarettes.

They don't actually care about the public's health. it's about profits. They want people to smoke and get hooked and then to be taking their nicotine replacement drugs and patches.

It's like Cancer. Imagine if they found a cure for cancer. Their radio therapy drugs industry would be wiped out.

Under capitalism, a publicly traded company has only one duty and that is to enhance shareholder value. This is what big pharma is doing. It controls a lot of the media, the WHO and academia, it has various influential front organizations at its beck and call and stooges in governments. If it can use all this power to create a phony disease out of thin air and then get governments to impose a mandatory vaccine on the world population from which it makes a huge profit, it is simply doing its duty to its shareholders. Just as it is doing in the other examples you give. What needs to happen is for the regulatory framework to change to impose limits on big pharma's power and influence so that its quest for profit is made beneficial to humanity.

[Tim Drayton]

From a recent statement by Dr Susan Hopkins, Public Health England Incident Director:

Although it may seem straightforward, there is no WHO agreed method of counting deaths from COVID-19. In England, we count all those that have died who had a positive COVID-19 test at any point.

There you have it from the horse’s mouth. They chalk up every death as a Covid death if that person previously tested positive for Covid regardless of whether Covid was actually the cause of death. In other words, they have been overinflating Covid deaths.

[Tim Drayton]

From a recent statement by Dr Susan Hopkins, Public Health England Incident Director:

Although it may seem straightforward, there is no WHO agreed method of counting deaths from COVID-19. In England, we count all those that have died who had a positive COVID-19 test at any point.

There you have it from the horse’s mouth. They chalk up every death as a Covid death if that person previously tested positive for Covid regardless of whether Covid was actually the cause of death. In other words, they have been overinflating Covid deaths.

With regard to the above:

A source said: “It turns out you could have been tested positive in February, recovered, then hit by a bus in July and you’d be recorded as a covid death.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/matt ... 01466.html

[cyprusgrump]

From a recent statement by Dr Susan Hopkins, Public Health England Incident Director:

Although it may seem straightforward, there is no WHO agreed method of counting deaths from COVID-19. In England, we count all those that have died who had a positive COVID-19 test at any point.

There you have it from the horse’s mouth. They chalk up every death as a Covid death if that person previously tested positive for Covid regardless of whether Covid was actually the cause of death. In other words, they have been overinflating Covid deaths.

And of course we don't know if any other countries do the same thing!

I notice that Spain, The UK, Sweden and The Netherlands list N/A in the 'Recovered' column of the Covid Data...

[Londonrake]

[cyprusgrump]

[Londonrake]

You always knew.

The guy in red with no name that beamed down.

Was toast!

[Kikapu]

[Kikapu]

United Airlines to lay off 36000 staff.

So I am very much in the Trump and Sweden camp. Economy before anything. But obvious some precautions and looking after the vulnerable with lock downs.

What we have now is unsustainable. It can't continue for too much longer after this year. This is what everyone doesn't get.

But there are no shutdowns anywhere to speak off for the last 1-2 months, unless like me, you consider social distancing also a form of shutdown, and yet many businesses like the aviation and tourist industry have not recovered and cannot recover if people do not feel safe, imaginary or real when the world’s largest economy not only did not impose a complete shutdown, but it pulled out of it way too soon, and to make matters worse, told the people to get back to your normal lives again, thank you Donald Trump.

Now the situation has gotten much worse in the US and if the US catches an economic cold, the rest of the world will catch it also. The point is, after the shutdown if managed well as most European countries have done, we could have all been doing much better today to keep the Covid-19 under a manageable control a while a little longer with social distancing and wearing mask, which would help gain people’s confidences so that they would start traveling.

The more some people resist to make some adjustments to their lives to keep the pandemic in check, the worse the situation will become until we can all hope that Big Pharma can come up with a vaccine for it. At that point, we will give anything they will ask for the vaccine. No point blaming the Big Pharma to come to “save “us because certain leaders and their followers were too stupid to follow science instead of politics.