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[repulsewarrior]

...it will be over when its over; in the meantime, the numbers will indicate results: that lag in time (since it is a dynamic issue) is not entirely qualified. (and the results themselves have changed meaning)

...denial is a wonderful thing so it seems, until it bites you; Hospital beds in Miami are surely harder to find.

...finally, an election which will be fought almost exclusively on TV for the whole world to see; over issues: COVID, foreign affairs and the economy. The stumps, and grand Conventions have no allure, but the need to be informed remains.

The great equaliser, this pandemic. No more behind closed doors, or less of it, having shuttered all of us in place; over the screen (sources available to all), are the where.

...the rest is an attitude of mind: to deny fear or our capacity to overcome it, to act or not.

[Tim Drayton]

Hospital beds in Miami are surely harder to find.

Yet, it has all happened before as the following article from 2018 testifies:

Florida among 46 states with widespread flu outbreaks

Local hospitals report 3x more patients this year

…

Tampa Bay area walk-in clinics are slammed with patients like Adalyn Fryberger and her mom Christi.

…

Nearly every hospital in Tampa Bay is dealing with a big spike in patients. The Florida Hospital Group is seeing triple the amount of flu patients at their Tampa Hospital compared to this time last year. Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital and the Largo Medical Center have also seen a spike in the number of flu cases.

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/heal ... -outbreaks

The only difference is that they didn’t put everyone under house arrest and destroy the economy because of the flu in 2018.

[CrookedRiverGuy]

Perhaps it’s time for CRG to edit the OP title?

To what? "Another CF-war"?

I wish I could. Anyway, I feel guilty over the accumulated loss of time this thread is causing you guys

[Kikapu]

Perhaps it’s time for CRG to edit the OP title?

To what? "Another CF-war"?

I wish I could. Anyway, I feel guilty over the accumulated loss of time this thread is causing you guys

Don’t be silly. Education is never a loss of time.

[Tim Drayton]

Who says lockdowns don’t kill?

… his wife had been due to receive immunotherapy when the lockdown began but she had been told, flat, that her treatment was to be postponed indefinitely. A senior medic personally rang her and told her that he had been instructed not to continue treatment of his patients and that nothing could be done, even the oncology unit waiting-room had been turned into a makeshift Covid ward: there would be phone calls every six weeks or so to see how she was. In the second of these phone calls two months later she was told that immunotherapy was available up in London “but that is was probably too late”. She was dead within weeks.

As reported at Lockdown Sceptics https://lockdownsceptics.org/

Not only does the covid cult kill people, it then gleefully chalks up another death that it passes off as being due to its cherished so-called Covid-19.

[Paphitis]

...it will be over when its over; in the meantime, the numbers will indicate results: that lag in time (since it is a dynamic issue) is not entirely qualified. (and the results themselves have changed meaning)

...denial is a wonderful thing so it seems, until it bites you; Hospital beds in Miami are surely harder to find.

...finally, an election which will be fought almost exclusively on TV for the whole world to see; over issues: COVID, foreign affairs and the economy. The stumps, and grand Conventions have no allure, but the need to be informed remains.

The great equaliser, this pandemic. No more behind closed doors, or less of it, having shuttered all of us in place; over the screen (sources available to all), are the where.

...the rest is an attitude of mind: to deny fear or our capacity to overcome it, to act or not.

Foreign affairs - a big tick as far as Trump is concerned because of his anti polemic stance on most things and his tough stance against Chy-na.

Economy - free pass because of Chy-na Virus. And before it was booming. Another tick.

Chy-na Virus - well it's beyond his control.

So I don't see an issue other than the other guy Bye-den looks like a complete goose. All I know is we are not being told all the facts about the number of dead. New reports from experts are saying the actual death rate is less than 1% and these guys are getting snuffed out. I don't know what the end game is or what the strategy is. It was only suppose to be to limit the spread so that we don't have a situation like there was in Italy and Spain where medicos had the terrible task of choosing which patients get the ventilators. Then there are other medicos saying that most patients didn't even need ventilators but a mere CPAP machine.

[Tim Drayton]

Hospital beds in Miami are surely harder to find.

Yet, it has all happened before as the following article from 2018 testifies:

Florida among 46 states with widespread flu outbreaks

Local hospitals report 3x more patients this year

…

Tampa Bay area walk-in clinics are slammed with patients like Adalyn Fryberger and her mom Christi.

…

Nearly every hospital in Tampa Bay is dealing with a big spike in patients. The Florida Hospital Group is seeing triple the amount of flu patients at their Tampa Hospital compared to this time last year. Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital and the Largo Medical Center have also seen a spike in the number of flu cases.

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/heal ... -outbreaks

The only difference is that they didn’t put everyone under house arrest and destroy the economy because of the flu in 2018.

Evidence that recent case figures in Florida have been vastly inflated:

The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-3 ... 19-results

[Londonrake]

Perhaps it’s time for CRG to edit the OP title?

To what? "Another CF-war"?

I wish I could. Anyway, I feel guilty over the accumulated loss of time this thread is causing you guys

Sorry. I'd forgotten that editing is time limited on this forum.

I wouldn't worry about the effort expended. It's been an interesting "debate". Although, my personal view is that it won't be finally clear until the fat stats lady sings - when it's all over (well, hopefully all over, anyway).

[cyprusgrump]

Here you go Bedwetters....

[Kikapu]

Here you go Bedwetters....

Trump and Bolsonaro has questioned Coronavirus crises and look how “well” their countries are doing!