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[Tim Drayton]

There is a need to distinguish between criticism of the juristic entity known as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the person called Bill Gates, and not to conflate both as "Gates-based conspiracy theories". I would be interested to know what counts as "conspiracy theories" in the following report given that there are 247 footnotes to back up the claims made:

https://www.globaljustice.org.uk/sites/ ... sion_2.pdf

[Kikapu]

Another new highest ever global daily total for confirmed positives on the Hopkins numbers

Trump’s solution is, if testing was stopped altogether, then we would have zero recorded cases for Covid-19!

Isn’t this guy just brilliant (not) how we can just solve the problem of this virus?

Personally speaking, I don’t think Trump is going to make it to the elections in November!

[erolz66]

There is a need to distinguish between criticism of the juristic entity known as the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the person called Bill Gates, and not to conflate both as "Gates-based conspiracy theories". I would be interested to know what counts as "conspiracy theories" in the following report given that there are 247 footnotes to back up the claims made:

https://www.globaljustice.org.uk/sites/ ... sion_2.pdf

There are no conspiracy theories in this report. The report however is not saying what you are saying about Gates or his Foundation, which often are conspiracy theories or bordering on them or indirectly supportive of them.

We are not suggesting that Bill Gates is insincere in his desire to help poor people and developing countries. Neither are we suggesting that some BMGF-funded projects are not positive; many are. A 2009 editorial in the medical journal The Lancet praised the BMGF for giving: “a massive boost to global health funding .. . The Foundation has challenged the world to think big and to be more ambitious about what can be done to save lives in low-income settings. The Foundation has added renewed dynamism, credibility, and attractiveness to global health [as a cause]”.9 Many other projects that the BMGF funds are also important, not least NGO and academic policy
and advocacy work that might otherwise not be promoted all due to lack of funds.

Unlike the authors of this well written and researched report you ARE systematically suggesting and saying that Gates is insincere in his motivations for creating and funding the foundation. You systematically distort reality to suit your agenda like you absurd speculations on how much profit there will be for big pharma from covid-19 vaccine and as you do when you try and make out this report supports the view you have been pushing about Gates here. Either you are just spectacularly bad at explaining what you actually mean or you are attempting to distort what this report does claim in order to make it out it supports views you have expressed here repeatedly that it does NOT support.

[erolz66]

Another new highest ever global daily total for confirmed positives on the Hopkins numbers

Trump’s solution is, if testing was stopped altogether, then we would have zero recorded cases for Covid-19!

Isn’t this guy just brilliant (not) how we can just solve the problem of this virus?

Personally speaking, I don’t think Trump is going to make it to the elections in November!

The slightly subtler version of this BS narrative that Pence is pushing and can be heard trying to encourage governors to use is that in those places where new infection are increasing this is a result merely of increased testing. However it is simple maths to determine as fact if the amount of new testing being done is or is not greater than the increase in new cases being discovered and from such maths it is clear this narrative is being used to actively try and deceive the American people.

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[Paphitis]

Why would governments around the world commit “economic suicide” by losing $Trillion$ with lockdowns just to help big Pharma make $700 billion at their expense?

Where is the financial logic in that?

(please excuse my sarcasm)

The figure of $700 billion is fake in any case, based on taking world population and multiplying it by $100. the fact that 2 billion of those 'customers' currently live on less $3.20 a day and another 1.5 billion on less than $5.50 per day is of course immaterial.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press ... -550-a-day

I believe governments will be made to pay. Don't be surprised if the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation steps in and makes a generous contribution towards vaccinations for the poorest people in the world (actually a small cut out of the huge profits Gates and his foundation will make from this venture).

The IMF will step in to loan the poorest of nations in the world all the money to vaccinate their people, to line the pockets of Big Pharma. In the end, they poorest of nations will end up paying two fold.

Where would we all be without the philanthropy of Gates and IMF?

[Paphitis]

Big pharma is far stronger than national governments, sadly.

Care to explain to me how you sell a vaccine at $100 profit to 2 billion people who live on less than $3.20 a day ? To 3.5 billion people living on less than $5.50 a day ?

Your 'numbers' are just evidence of how little you are concerned about reality vs propagandising your chosen narrative as far as I am concerned.

Give them loans, then plunder and loot their natural resources to pay for them twice over.

[erolz66]

Another 'record' day yesterday for daily global positive cases detected according to Hopkins data 176,000 newly detected cases of infection in a single day.

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And an article on why some people believe that the Hopkins figure for global deaths of 440,000 is nearer at least 570,000 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-53073046

[Londonrake]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53073046

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[erolz66]

Is there an echo in here?

[Londonrake]

Is there an echo in here?

Keep trying.