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[Tim Drayton]

Big pharma is far stronger than national governments, sadly.

Care to explain to me how you sell a vaccine at $100 profit to 2 billion people who live on less than $3.20 a day ? To 3.5 billion people living on less than $5.50 a day ?

Your 'numbers' are just evidence of how little you are concerned about reality vs propagandising your chosen narrative as far as I am concerned.

I believe I have just explained that. Please revisit my reply above.

[Tim Drayton]

We know the numbers aren't adding up.
After all this time people are still objecing...

Excellent!

Any explanation as to why governments around the world are committing “economic suicides” for nothing?

Indeed, we must ask cui bono. One prime candidate is the $700,000,000,000 that big pharma looks set to scoop up from the baseless scare campaign it has whipped up using its control of the media, academia and the WHO.

Why would governments around the world commit “economic suicide” by losing $Trillion$ with lockdowns just to help big Pharma make $700 billion at their expense?

Where is the financial logic in that?

(please excuse my sarcasm)

Big pharma is far stronger than national governments, sadly.

Just on cue. A nice bit of evidence:

Coronavirus news - live: WHO warns against any further lifting of UK lockdown as China sees biggest surge of cases in months

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heal ... 65906.html

There you have it. WHO, an organization that is sadly now in big pharma’s pocket, gives its latest orders to the UK government.

[Kikapu]

We know the numbers aren't adding up.
After all this time people are still objecing...

Excellent!

Any explanation as to why governments around the world are committing “economic suicides” for nothing?

Indeed, we must ask cui bono. One prime candidate is the $700,000,000,000 that big pharma looks set to scoop up from the baseless scare campaign it has whipped up using its control of the media, academia and the WHO.

Why would governments around the world commit “economic suicide” by losing $Trillion$ with lockdowns just to help big Pharma make $700 billion at their expense?

Where is the financial logic in that?

(please excuse my sarcasm)

Big pharma is far stronger than national governments, sadly.

Just on cue. A nice bit of evidence:

Coronavirus news - live: WHO warns against any further lifting of UK lockdown as China sees biggest surge of cases in months

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heal ... 65906.html

There you have it. WHO, an organization that is sadly now in big pharma’s pocket, gives its latest orders to the UK government.

Perhaps the WHO will next order the UK to cancel Brexit and remain in the EU!

[repulsewarrior]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... re-america

...hospital care in the USA.

[erolz66]

Encouraging news re potential covid-19 vaccine.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/arti ... tests.html

Not great for Paphitis given this one is from a Chinese company. More seriously I found the 90% figure intriguing and wonder if it is connected with this https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... s-12007209 ?

Also on the vaccine front but less Chinese there is this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ust-3.html

On this one I note the cost of £3 per person which is strange because I though Tim had already established the whole point of this fiasco was so that big pharma could make a PROFIT of $100 per dose. Looks like someone has fucked up them numbers in a major way but obviously not much chance that Tim has done so, so I guess it is someone else. In any case old mr Gates and his bug pharam buddies are going to be mightily disappointed that their guaranteed 700 billion profit might not turn out to be 700 billion after all.

Again getting more serious again, it does look like there may be viable tested vaccines from multiple sources before year end which has to be encouraging. Of course we still do not know how long or complete anitbody immunity will prove to be but seems like real progress being made on this front.

Also good news on therapy drugs for those infected with this news https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061281

existing cheap and widely available drug proven to have save lives of those with the most serious cases of covid-19 infection . On this report I noticed the following

Had the drug had been used to treat patients in the UK from the start of the pandemic, up to 5,000 lives could have been saved, researchers say.

Again surely there must be some mistake here because Tim has already explained to us there is not point what so ever in trying to delay spread of covid-19 other than to prevent ICU places becoming overwhelmed, yet this would seem to indicate that actually delaying the spread till now we know this drug works could increase some peoples chance of not dying from covid-19 20-40%, which to me seems like a 'point'.

[Tim Drayton]

I wonder why the shares of Moderna, the company widely considered to be leading the race to develop a Covid vaccine, are up over 300% so far this year.

[Tim Drayton]

Curious to note the performance this year so far of the shares of another couple of leading contendors for producing a vaccine: Novavax up over 1000% and Inovio up over 400%.

[erolz66]

It is hardly surprising Tim. I am not fan of market economics of life saving drugs but it is what it is. What none of those increases you mention are compatible with is your figures for how much profit there will be in a vaccine, which has been my point from when you first presented them. They are the epitome of made up numbers designed not to match any kind of reality but just to support a specific pre chosen narrative. They are a gross exaggeration of reality by design and intent imo.

I would be all for sensible discussion as to how we could remove profit entirely from the production of life saving and enhancing drugs by socialising the cost of development and producing them not for profit. I just do not think such discussions sensibly start with Gates based conspiracy theories. Nor do I think denying the benefit of those drugs is of much use either.

[repulsewarrior]

[erolz66]

Another new highest ever global daily total for confirmed positives on the Hopkins numbers