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[Kikapu]

Gates' personal net wealth has increased from around 50 billion to over 100 billion since he started his "career in philanthropy" in 2010. Says it all, surely.

So has the share prices in Microsoft.

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[Tim Drayton]

It is not just Microsoft shares. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has a history of making gifts to large, wealthy corporations in which it is itself invested:



I don’t know about philanthropy, but the foundation seems to be flourishing as an investment fund:



I can’t help wondering if Gates is also personally invested in these companies.

https://www.thenation.com/article/socie ... lanthropy/

[erolz66]

You do understand that is how charitable foundations work right ? They aim to earn more from investment than they give away. The more they earn from investments the more they can give away. If they give away more than they earn they cease to exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_family_foundations

https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-w ... cies%20and

Koch Industries: Secretly Funding the Climate Denial Machine

Koch Family Foundations have spent $127,006,756 directly financing 92 groups that have attacked climate change science and policy solutions, from 1997-2017.

[Tim Drayton]

There was silly me thinking it was about donations from the wealthy going to good causes. I mean, that nice Mr Gates could so easily donate the 50 billion in extra wealth he has made since embarking on his "career in philanthropy" to his foundation. I thought the Koch brothers were "baddies" anyway so why should anyone who aims to do good copy their model?

[Tim Drayton]

William Laing, chairman of healthcare business intelligence provider LaingBuisson, has provided some possible explanations for the enigmatic rise in deaths from all causes in ONS statistics far in excess of the number of deaths attributed (in a manner that inflates their number) to Covid-19.

More than 25,000 hospital patients were moved to care homes from mid-March to mid-April under the bizarre policy of denying healthcare to all those whose symptoms could not be attributed to Covid-19.

According to Laing, “most non-Covid ‘excess’ deaths were in fact taking place among a small population of care home residents” due to the subsequent denial of health care and support to care homes, examples of which he gives as follows:

“At the peak of the crisis, there were widespread reports of normal medical support simply being removed from care homes.

Ambulances would not turn up to take emergencies to hospital, since capacity had to be kept clear for Covid cases. In-person GP house calls were replaced with occasional telephone calls.

In the absence of any expectation of active medical support, care home residents were encouraged to consider what instructions they should give in the case of serious illness from whatever cause, with many opting for DNR (do not resuscitate).

At the same time, care homes were being asked by NHS Trusts to accept discharges without knowing the coronavirus status of the patient concerned.

In the nature of the things, it is unlikely that the source of infection can be traced, but it is likely that hasty discharges were the port of entry of coronavirus into some care homes.”

https://www.laingbuissonnews.com/care-m ... ays-laing/

[DT.]

Gates' personal net wealth has increased from around 50 billion to over 100 billion since he started his "career in philanthropy" in 2010. Says it all, surely.

So has the share prices in Microsoft.

Screen shot 2020-06-09 at 09.34.21.png

[Tim Drayton]

Gates' personal net wealth has increased from around 50 billion to over 100 billion since he started his "career in philanthropy" in 2010. Says it all, surely.

So has the share prices in Microsoft.

Screen shot 2020-06-09 at 09.34.21.png

OK, can somebody please explain what is to stop him from donating this 50 billion in windfall profits to his foundation now that he has embarked on a "career in philanthropy"?

[erolz66]

William Laing, chairman of healthcare business intelligence provider LaingBuisson, has provided some possible explanations for the enigmatic rise in deaths from all causes in ONS statistics far in excess of the number of deaths attributed (in a manner that inflates their number) to Covid-19.

what he actually says about excess deaths and possible causes vs your claim of inflated attribution of covid as cause

One obvious possibility is that Covid-19 was being under-recorded (false negatives).There were plenty of anecdotal reports in support of this. But equally, there were anecdotal reports of false positives.

See the difference. He acknowledges the obvious possibility. He acknowledges uncertainty. You ignore the obvious possibility and have ever time it has been mentioned before and you assert that it is certain the numbers are over estimates.

More than 25,000 hospital patients were moved to care homes from mid-March to mid-April under the bizarre policy of denying healthcare to all those whose symptoms could not be attributed to Covid-19.

What he actually says about this policy vs your claim of bizzare.

Faced with a threat of unknown scale, no-one could doubt the government was right to take radical action to scale down other hospital activity to achieve the primary goal.

According to Laing, “most non-Covid ‘excess’ deaths were in fact taking place among a small population of care home residents” due to the subsequent denial of health care and support to care homes, examples of which he gives as follows:

So not down to lock down then but down to failure to protect those in care homes. As also seen in your favorite non lock down exemplar Sweden.

As ever all you do Tim is focus on the excess deaths that were not caused by covid-19 whilst ignoring entirely those that where caused by, which is a much larger number and on its own shows this event is not just like a normal flu outbreak (as if the words and images from doctors and hospitals mean nothing). A discrepancy that has all but disappeared and probably was not related to lock down in any case but to other actions taken. Same old distortion to fit your pre chosen narrative is all I see.

[Tim Drayton]

Now they tell us. Information that makes a complete nonsense of social distancing and lockdown for people displaying no symptoms (or for those who have recovered from the disease):

An expert from the World Health Organization (WHO) has said people with the coronavirus who show no symptoms “very rarely” spread the infection.

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/coronavirus- ... 57984.html

[Paphitis]

Gates' personal net wealth has increased from around 50 billion to over 100 billion since he started his "career in philanthropy" in 2010. Says it all, surely.

Yes it does!