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[Tim Drayton]

... how many extra deaths will there be from flu in the winter of 2020/21 in the UK because people who otherwise could have been protected by taking an annual flu vaccine will not now do so because they are worried it has a Bill Gates tracking chip in it ?

Sorry, I forgot to congratulate you earlier. Every time I think you cannot possibly come up with a more outlandish and bizarre straw man argument, you pull yet another one out of the hat.

Do you take annual flu vaccine Tim ?

No.

[erolz66]

... how many extra deaths will there be from flu in the winter of 2020/21 in the UK because people who otherwise could have been protected by taking an annual flu vaccine will not now do so because they are worried it has a Bill Gates tracking chip in it ?

Sorry, I forgot to congratulate you earlier. Every time I think you cannot possibly come up with a more outlandish and bizarre straw man argument, you pull yet another one out of the hat.

Do you take annual flu vaccine Tim ?

No.

Do you advise others, your friends and family to not take it ? Do you advise your children to not let their children get the MMR vaccine ?

[Tim Drayton]

Where are the 1000's of deaths ?

Straw man argument yet again. I said "there is considerable substance" to the allegations the BBC dubs "conspiracy theories" not that the allegations in the form the BBC presents them (quite possible a straw man argument in itself) are totally correct.

[Tim Drayton]

... how many extra deaths will there be from flu in the winter of 2020/21 in the UK because people who otherwise could have been protected by taking an annual flu vaccine will not now do so because they are worried it has a Bill Gates tracking chip in it ?

Sorry, I forgot to congratulate you earlier. Every time I think you cannot possibly come up with a more outlandish and bizarre straw man argument, you pull yet another one out of the hat.

Do you take annual flu vaccine Tim ?

No.

Do you advise others, your friends and family to not take it ? Do you advise your children to not let their children get the MMR vaccine ?

It is a personal decision that is for everyone to take for themselves.

[erolz66]

Where are the 1000's of deaths ?

Straw man argument yet again. I said "there is considerable substance" to the allegations the BBC dubs "conspiracy theories" not that the allegations in the form the BBC presents them (quite possible a straw man argument in itself) are totally correct.

An as yet unproven allegation over 5 years ago that 5 girls died because of their involvement in a vaccine trial partly funded by the BMGF is not 'considerable substantiation' to the allegation that the BMGF has tested vaccines on children in Africa and India leading to thousands of deaths and irreversible injuries". That you claim it is just shows the degree to which you will twist reality with intent to get the result you want.

[erolz66]

... how many extra deaths will there be from flu in the winter of 2020/21 in the UK because people who otherwise could have been protected by taking an annual flu vaccine will not now do so because they are worried it has a Bill Gates tracking chip in it ?

Sorry, I forgot to congratulate you earlier. Every time I think you cannot possibly come up with a more outlandish and bizarre straw man argument, you pull yet another one out of the hat.

Do you take annual flu vaccine Tim ?

No.

Do you advise others, your friends and family to not take it ? Do you advise your children to not let their children get the MMR vaccine ?

It is a personal decision that is for everyone to take for themselves.

Try answering the question asked. Do you offer you offer your views and opinions to your friends and family as to if they should avoid flu and MMR vaccines or not ? Simple question.

[Tim Drayton]

It seems extraordinary - that a man who probably makes $500,000 every hour of the day in interest on his wealth, not to mention income, would want to get involved in all that shit.

There seems to be a lot of confusion between Bill Gates, the human being who amassed a great fortune mainly by getting the patent on software developed by others and then deriving monopoly profits from this, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is a juristic entity. As to what motivates the former, one can only speculate, but I don't find it inconceivable that he could be motivated by a desire to convert his great wealth into political power, or to advance his own personal agendas (he seems to have an obsession with vaccines) or to gain personal glory (he seems to love being feted as a "health expert" in interviews on media outlets his foundation funds). On the other hand, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation appears to be acting, in the guise of philanthropy, as a front for a nexus of various powerful interest groups, at the very least big pharma, and to be furthering an agenda that serves these interests. A distinction needs to be drawn between the activities of the former, and the activites of the former when acting as front man for the latter, and the activities of the latter.

[Tim Drayton]

... how many extra deaths will there be from flu in the winter of 2020/21 in the UK because people who otherwise could have been protected by taking an annual flu vaccine will not now do so because they are worried it has a Bill Gates tracking chip in it ?

Sorry, I forgot to congratulate you earlier. Every time I think you cannot possibly come up with a more outlandish and bizarre straw man argument, you pull yet another one out of the hat.

Do you take annual flu vaccine Tim ?

No.

Do you advise others, your friends and family to not take it ? Do you advise your children to not let their children get the MMR vaccine ?

It is a personal decision that is for everyone to take for themselves.

Try answering the question asked. Do you offer you offer your views and opinions to your friends and family as to if they should avoid flu and MMR vaccines or not ? Simple question.

No, I don't. As I said, it is a personal decision that everyone needs to take for themselves.

[Tim Drayton]

By the way, I see where your next straw man is coming from. If you reject the exaggerated, alarmist portrayal of a flu-like virus as served up in particular by the Gates-funded media you must be an "anti vaxxer".

[erolz66]

It seems extraordinary - that a man who probably makes $500,000 every hour of the day in interest on his wealth, not to mention income, would want to get involved in all that shit.

There seems to be a lot of confusion between Bill Gates, the human being who amassed a great fortune mainly by getting the patent on software developed by others and then deriving monopoly profits from this, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is a juristic entity. As to what motivates the former, one can only speculate, but I don't find it inconceivable that he could be motivated by a desire to convert his great wealth into political power, or to advance his own personal agendas (he seems to have an obsession with vaccines) or to gain personal glory (he seems to love being feted as a "health expert" in interviews on media outlets his foundation funds). On the other hand, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation appears to be acting, in the guise of philanthropy, as a front for a nexus of various powerful interest groups, at the very least big pharma, and to be furthering an agenda that serves these interests. A distinction needs to be drawn between the activities of the former, and the activites of the former when acting as front man for the latter, and the activities of the latter.

There are billionaires who use their vast wealth and fortune in hidden covert ways to ensure and protect their wealth and power and ability to accrue it, like the Koch brothers and then their are billionaires like Bill Gates who use their vast wealth publicly and transparently to promote global health initiatives around the globe.