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[repulsewarrior]

https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2020/may ... ajor-fund/

...read in Arkansas

...not Fox, or the NYT, which by the way printed the same article; in the headline, but less than a paragraph on the subject.

[cyprusgrump]

Now compare THAT with the blurred low res chart from your total biased and partial website that you it and you are CLAIMING is the AFTER chart yet does not seem to exist at all on the Ft's site and it is clear I think who is searching for truth here and who is just seeking to support their pre chosen side regardless of truth.

SO you can categorically state that the original (blurred) chart never existed on the website and was not changed to the second chart...?

Of course you can't...

You literally make stuff up as you go along...

And you think the second chart shows a tight correlation do you? Bollox does it...

Here is another interesting article from the BBC* which confirms what Tim and I have been saying all along...

Why most Covid-19 deaths won’t be from the virus


* No doubt the BBC is no longer a 'Respected Media Outlet' because 'reasons'....

[erolz66]

SO you can categorically state that the original (blurred) chart never existed on the website and was not changed to the second chart...?

I can state categorically that of the three sections I quoted from the FT article, one of them, the point about total deaths all causes being the key metric, is nothing to do with how you interpret the charts at all and that you have categorically avoided that point entirely. I can also now, as someone who did not first pick their side 8 weeks ago based on politics, when there was no data at all to go on and then spend all their energies and time seeking out anything that seemed to support their side and ignore everything that did not, state that I believe based on evidence seen to date that the correlation between how quickly a government acted and how good or bad outcomes have been to date is overwhelmingly clear. This is the biggest single factor and more important even that what actions were taken. If Sweden had taken exactly the actions it did, 2 weeks earlier than it did, it's outcomes today would not be as bad as they are currently. By a significant amount.

Here is another interesting article from the BBC* which confirms what Tim and I have been saying all along...

What you and Tim have been saying 'all along' , which means from before there was any data on which to base such a view, is that you are certain that the effect of lock down will be net negative and not positive over some arbitrary and movable time frame. This is not in fact what the article you cite is saying at all. The article is talking about what the collateral effects of any such outbreak are beyond just the direct disease itself. Collateral effects that come in to play regardless of if you lock down or not and whatever actions you do or do not take. The reason why I know the article is not saying what you would like it to say and what you and Tim have been saying from before there was any data or evidence is in reading the final section titled "So what can be done to minimise the indirect consequences of Covid-19?". This section does not contain anything that you and Tim have been saying, like do not lock down or just let nature take it's course and let herd immunity kick in. It in fact lists sensible measure that I would agree with and that I do not recall you or Tim mentioning to date.

[erolz66]

Oh and just to get back to the numbers, global positive tests just hit its highest ever daily figure to date of 134,700 newly detected infections in a single day, up 13 % from the previous daily high that was only 2 days previous and the last three days all higher than anything seen before. These global figures are accelerating in part because 'late starter' countries like Brazil and India are only just starting on their exponential infection curves but also because some 'earlier starting' countries have made little to no inroads on reducing their daily rates. Like Sweden where penultimate latest number was a mere 8% down from their historic high and the latest figure the following day is only down 12 % , compared with say the UK where the latest daily figure is 75% down on highest previous day - even when you take out the actual highest previous high day that looks anomalous and used 2nd highest previous high.

[Kikapu]

Now compare THAT with the blurred low res chart from your total biased and partial website that you it and you are CLAIMING is the AFTER chart yet does not seem to exist at all on the Ft's site and it is clear I think who is searching for truth here and who is just seeking to support their pre chosen side regardless of truth.

SO you can categorically state that the original (blurred) chart never existed on the website and was not changed to the second chart...?

Of course you can't...

You literally make stuff up as you go along...

And you think the second chart shows a tight correlation do you? Bollox does it...

Here is another interesting article from the BBC* which confirms what Tim and I have been saying all along...

Why most Covid-19 deaths won’t be from the virus


* No doubt the BBC is no longer a 'Respected Media Outlet' because 'reasons'....

That is a misleading title after reading most of the article of “Why most Covid-19 deaths won’t be from the virus”.

[Paphitis]

...for the record, the US has officially withdrawn from WHO.

...frankly it has not been given a lot of coverage.

Has got some but yeah probably not as much as it warrants. So far not even 'lapdog' Australia looks likely to follow his masters lead on this one as far as I can tell.

We don't have a master, but we support the decision the USA has made. Yes we will always back the decision they make as a sovereign power and state. Yes we will always support them over Chy-na. WE DO NOT care one iota about any trade with Chy-na. Do not be fooled one single bit because Australians are a very proud people and when they dig in, they are stubborn and will always back their country and their sovereignty over money. To us, this Chy-na Virus has been more devastating to our economy than WW@. As such, Chy-na has inflicted a lot of pain onto all nations and must be investigated completely, along with their lapdog WHO. Australia is now the thorn in WHO's backside.

Australia has had its win by triggering a global investigation into both WHO and Chy-na. It did that also with the help of Germany who are also on the same page as Australia. I think there were another 7 EU countries that took a similar line. As a result, we now have a trade war with Chy-na, but we do not care about that. What we care about is the investigation and to fully get to the bottom of all this.

Australia did more by staying within WHO. We did not stay in WHO because we trust them or believe in anything they have to say about Chy-na Virus. Our Government has already stated that WHO have zero credibility.

Australia has also said the same about other Organisations like the UN.

[repulsewarrior]

...what difference did the lockdown make?

https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/05/31/lock ... ifference/

[Kikapu]

The coronavirus has killed over 100,000 people in the US in just 4 months. This chart shows how that compares to other common causes of death.
Business InsiderMay 31, 2020, 7:29 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus- ... 23465.html

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[Londonrake]

Coronavirus: Bill Gates ‘microchip’ conspiracy theory and other vaccine claims fact-checked https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52847648

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[Kikapu]

Coronavirus: Bill Gates ‘microchip’ conspiracy theory and other vaccine claims fact-checked https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/52847648

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Too bad. I was looking forward being chipped so that I wouldn’t need to carry house keys any longer just like my cat!