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[Cap]

Tim has been adamant from the get go...
Time is proving him right.

[repulsewarrior]

...for the record,

Cyprus announced eight new coronavirus cases on Sunday, mostly from repatriated Cypriots, a day after the island celebrated zero COVID-19 cases for the first time since March 9, when the country reported its first two cases, according to the Health Ministry.

The total number of cases in Cyprus currently stands at 935, with 17 related fatalities.

According to the Ministry of Health, 190 tests were also carried out as part of the 10,000 on people working in catering and beauty establishments, hairdressers, barbers and tattoo parlours, all of which came back negative.

Also negative were 144 tests carried out at the Nicosia general hospital, 704 from the 20,000 being tested in education, 200 of the 20,000 working in retail, 127 among sensitive groups and 81 tests carried out by private initiative.

https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/05/25/e ... in-cyprus/

[erolz66]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... heory.html

This scares me. I think our collective ability to sort truth from fiction, fact from nonsense will determine out collective future. If we even survive as a species, if we do with what levels of inequity and what level of authoritarian state we do or do not end up with and many other possible futures will all be shaped and largely determined, I think, by how well or badly we collectively do or do not show a collective ability to sort fact from fiction. When I see poll results like these it scares me. At the widest possible zoomed out scale and level it scares me. At the more zoomed in scale it depresses me because there are real serious questions society needs to be able to ask itself about people like Bill Gates and others more extreme than him, their wealth and how they can and do use it to shape and control aspects of all our lives to their benefit and our detriment and these questions and the time and effort that should be devoted to them are lost in discussions about his plans to inject micro chips in to every person in the world.

[Kikapu]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8354313/More-40-Republicans-believe-bizarre-Bill-Gates-conspiracy-theory.html

This scares me. I think our collective ability to sort truth from fiction, fact from nonsense will determine out collective future. If we even survive as a species, if we do with what levels of inequity and what level of authoritarian state we do or do not end up with and many other possible futures will all be shaped and largely determined, I think, by how well or badly we collectively do or do not show a collective ability to sort fact from fiction. When I see poll results like these it scares me. At the widest possible zoomed out scale and level it scares me. At the more zoomed in scale it depresses me because there are real serious questions society needs to be able to ask itself about people like Bill Gates and others more extreme than him, their wealth and how they can and do use it to shape and control aspects of all our lives to their benefit and our detriment and these questions and the time and effort that should be devoted to them are lost in discussions about his plans to inject micro chips in to every person in the world.

Some people deserve to be chipped to counter their stupidity and to be sterilized at the same time so not to be able to reproduce.

America has many ignorant people who can be sold anything, regardless how far fetched the bullshit may be.

[Tim Drayton]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8354313/More-40-Republicans-believe-bizarre-Bill-Gates-conspiracy-theory.html

This scares me. I think our collective ability to sort truth from fiction, fact from nonsense will determine out collective future. If we even survive as a species, if we do with what levels of inequity and what level of authoritarian state we do or do not end up with and many other possible futures will all be shaped and largely determined, I think, by how well or badly we collectively do or do not show a collective ability to sort fact from fiction. When I see poll results like these it scares me. At the widest possible zoomed out scale and level it scares me. At the more zoomed in scale it depresses me because there are real serious questions society needs to be able to ask itself about people like Bill Gates and others more extreme than him, their wealth and how they can and do use it to shape and control aspects of all our lives to their benefit and our detriment and these questions and the time and effort that should be devoted to them are lost in discussions about his plans to inject micro chips in to every person in the world.

Don't forget that the term "conspiracy theory" was first coined to deride those who disputed the then dominant narrative about the assassination of President Kennedy. Does anybody still think Lee Harvey Oswald did it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NbQkyvbw18

[Kikapu]

The UK, Sweden and Brazil have the highest COVID-19 daily death rates in the world

Yahoo News UKMay 26, 2020, 5:23 PM GMT+2

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus- ... 35116.html

[repulsewarrior]

...couldn't help myself, i am an old fan: Ginette Reno is an icon adored by the francophonie in Canada, and around the world.

[erolz66]

https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/05/26/coro ... of-cyprus/

[erolz66]

https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-c25 ... 8ffde71bf0

The timing of lockdowns relative to the spread of the virus had a significant effect on the total level of excess deaths, the data show. Countries such as Germany and Norway, which imposed restrictions when the spread of the virus was limited, suffered much lower levels of additional deaths than those in the UK where the government waited longer before ordering a lockdown.

Excess deaths is internationally recognised as the best way to compare countries’ performance in handling infectious diseases. Chris Whitty, the UK’s chief medical officer, called excess deaths “the key metric”.

Examining the cause of the high death rates in certain countries, the strongest link appears at this stage to be between the date of a country’s lockdown and the probable number of infections that already existed when restrictions were applied.

All stuff I have been consistently saying.

[erolz66]

Testing the theory that this event is comparable in scale to regular flu outbreak spikes seen every 5-10 years, using ONS data just for excess deaths all causes vs 5 year average and nothing else.

Taking 2014/15 as the flu spike as the comparative. 2014/15 flu spike being the highest such seen in the previous 20 years as per Tim's chart here cyprus47300-1090.html#p896228

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Conclusion drawn from using just the simplest, hardest, key metric we have. This current event is NOT comparable in scale to regular flu spikes seen every 5 - 10 years.

Consequence of this conclusions. The simple hard numbers tell us that outlier experts that use models, extrapolations and selective studies based on guesses of unknown and inherently unknowable numbers like IFR, or R etc, that conclude this event is comparable in scale to regular flu outbreaks seen every 5 - 10 years should be treated with caution because their conclusions do not fit the hard simple key metric numbers we do have to date.