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[Tim Drayton]

Where do you place the Koch brothers in this 'analysis' (and I use the world very loosely)? Trump ? The masons ? The bilderberg group ? The Illuminati ? The lizard men ?

My world view is strongly influenced by a non-dogmatic form of Marxism, and I believe that over the past few decades we have seen the top echelons of the ruling classes of individual countries fusing together to create a global ruling class and I don't find it surprising that this group will try to consolidate their hegemony over mankind to the greatest extent possible and even establish some kind of totalitarian world order, and I believe they are exploiting the current pandemic to such ends, and they are using engineered fear with great success as a tool to make people of their own free will surrender fundamental civic and constitutional rights. As to the nitty-gritty and who belongs to this global ruling class, well the devil is in the detail. As to the Koch brothers, definitely yes.

[erolz66]

Where do you place the Koch brothers in this 'analysis' (and I use the world very loosely)? Trump ? The masons ? The bilderberg group ? The Illuminati ? The lizard men ?

My world view is strongly influenced by a non-dogmatic form of Marxism, and I believe that over the past few decades we have seen the top echelons of the ruling classes of individual countries fusing together to create a global ruling class and I don't find it surprising that this group will try to consolidate their hegemony over mankind to the greatest extent possible and even establish some kind of totalitarian world order, and I believe they are exploiting the current pandemic to such ends, and they are using engineered fear with great success as a tool to make people of their own free will surrender fundamental civic and constitutional rights. As to the nitty-gritty and who belongs to this global ruling class, well the devil is in the detail. As to the Koch brothers, definitely yes.

Pretty similar to my over all world view, just without the obsession on this current event as anything out of the ordinary in this sense, such forces have always exploited every and any situation to pursue their ends and always will. I see no sound logic in 'because there is big money interest involved therefore the virus event must be smaller than most people think'. Or the obsession with Bill Gates and big pharma specifically. All multi billionaires are potentially 'dangerous'. On any relative scale Bill Gates is nearer the benign end than most other multi billionaires. More open and transparent in what his aims and goals are than just about any others that almost entirely work 'in the dark'.

Anyway here is a recent FT piece not unconnected with such 'macro' views about Cyprus specifically and that is almost entirely nothing to do with covid-19 outbreak, that supposedly has pushed all such journalism off the pages of the press (though sensationalist mirror headlines are still needed of course, if they are the right headlines). I found it very interesting reading. It is titled "Moscow on the Med: Cyprus and its Russians"

https://www.ft.com/content/67918012-940 ... 1e24b679ed

And FWIW I ignore headlines like these as much as any others talking about numbers that are all just guesses and can only BE guesses

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... s-11988983

That it is UK government policy to decide how much and how fast to ease restrictions based on a number that by definition can not be know with any degree of accuracy right now (r) is to me just indicative of the madness going around currently.

[Tim Drayton]

My current "obsession" with big pharma is because I believe it is the force that has been running a very deliberate perception management campaign to whip up hysteria around the current epidemic with its profit at the very least as the motivation. Big pharma's tentacles are closely intertwined with the Bill Gates Foundation, one of whose main functions seems to be to promote the interests of big pharma, hence the "obsession" with Bill Gates. Otherwise, yes, it is a bigger jigsaw and there are other peices.

[Sotos]

Where do you place the Koch brothers in this 'analysis' (and I use the world very loosely)? Trump ? The masons ? The bilderberg group ? The Illuminati ? The lizard men ?

My world view is strongly influenced by a non-dogmatic form of Marxism, and I believe that over the past few decades we have seen the top echelons of the ruling classes of individual countries fusing together to create a global ruling class and I don't find it surprising that this group will try to consolidate their hegemony over mankind to the greatest extent possible and even establish some kind of totalitarian world order, and I believe they are exploiting the current pandemic to such ends, and they are using engineered fear with great success as a tool to make people of their own free will surrender fundamental civic and constitutional rights. As to the nitty-gritty and who belongs to this global ruling class, well the devil is in the detail. As to the Koch brothers, definitely yes.

Pretty similar to my over all world view, just without the obsession on this current event as anything out of the ordinary in this sense, such forces have always exploited every and any situation to pursue their ends and always will. I see no sound logic in 'because there is big money interest involved therefore the virus event must be smaller than most people think'. Or the obsession with Bill Gates and big pharma specifically. All multi billionaires are potentially 'dangerous'. On any relative scale Bill Gates is nearer the benign end than most other multi billionaires. More open and transparent in what his aims and goals are than just about any others that almost entirely work 'in the dark'.

Anyway here is a recent FT piece not unconnected with such 'macro' views about Cyprus specifically and that is almost entirely nothing to do with covid-19 outbreak, that supposedly has pushed all such journalism off the pages of the press (though sensationalist mirror headlines are still needed of course, if they are the right headlines). I found it very interesting reading. It is titled "Moscow on the Med: Cyprus and its Russians"

https://www.ft.com/content/67918012-940 ... 1e24b679ed

There are several anti-Cypriot UK newspapers, but FT probably tops that list. The UK has several tax havens and along with the city of London they attract lots of Russian oligarch money. They should mind their own country. What Cyprus is doing is none of their business.

[erolz66]

My current "obsession" with big pharma is because I believe it is the force that has been running a very deliberate perception management campaign to whip up hysteria around the current epidemic with its profit at the very least as the motivation. Big pharma's tentacles are closely intertwined with the Bill Gates Foundation, one of whose main functions seems to be to promote the interests of big pharma, hence the "obsession" with Bill Gates. Otherwise, yes, it is a bigger jigsaw and there are other peices.

So you do not think all the other 'bigs' complete with their billionaires and foundations and vastly more subversive and covert operations, that have a massive vested interests in a narrative of 'its all over blown hype, lets get back to business as usual' can compete with 'big pharma' and Bill ? This is where you lose me.

[erolz66]

There are several anti-Cypriot UK newspapers, but FT probably tops that list. The UK has several tax havens and along with the city of London they attract lots of Russian oligarch money. They should mind their own country. What Cyprus is doing is none of their business.

Sounds a little defensive to me Sotos Sounds a bit like ignore the message because of the messenger. Sounds a bit like let's not as Cypriots consider this regardless of if other countries are better or worse, cause it may be a bit too messy ?

[Tim Drayton]

Seemingly, ever more doctors in Germany are coming forward and making statements of this kind (with English subtitles):

https://youtu.be/5V1CQmuHlww

[Tim Drayton]

My current "obsession" with big pharma is because I believe it is the force that has been running a very deliberate perception management campaign to whip up hysteria around the current epidemic with its profit at the very least as the motivation. Big pharma's tentacles are closely intertwined with the Bill Gates Foundation, one of whose main functions seems to be to promote the interests of big pharma, hence the "obsession" with Bill Gates. Otherwise, yes, it is a bigger jigsaw and there are other peices.

So you do not think all the other 'bigs' complete with their billionaires and foundations and vastly more subversive and covert operations, that have a massive vested interests in a narrative of 'its all over blown hype, lets get back to business as usual' can compete with 'big pharma' and Bill ? This is where you lose me.

"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government." - Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992. (in an address to the Bilderberger organization meeting at Evian, France, on May 21, 1991. As transcribed from a tape recording made by one of the Swiss delegates. )"

Sound vaguely familiar? Bill Gates is the most visible front man and I don’t know who is involved or exactly what the agenda is, but they seem to be winning, throught the strategy described above. That’s why I’m more worried about them than other "bigs" just now.

[repulsewarrior]

[erolz66]

This seems to me to attempt at balance

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... vid-elite/