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Postby erolz66 » Wed May 13, 2020 4:25 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:It seems the first anti-lockdown protests are taking place at multiple venues this weekend in the UK:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... urday.html


Is what is happening with this virus, nothing out of the realm of the unusual and just akin to flu virus outbreaks that go around every decade or so , or not Tim ? Simple question you appear to be studiously trying to avoid answering. The more you avoid answering it the more you prove your inability to do anything other confirm your previously held bias. You can see that right ?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 13, 2020 4:41 pm

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Is what is happening with this virus, nothing out of the realm of the unusual and just akin to flu virus outbreaks that go around every decade or so , or not Tim?


Yes, I believe so. Compare it to what happened in the 1968 Hong Kong epidemic.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Wed May 13, 2020 4:43 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:It seems the first anti-lockdown protests are taking place at multiple venues this weekend in the UK:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... urday.html


Not quite sure what your point is Tim ?

Is it - "look another example of MSM sensationalism out of all proportion to reality perhaps ?"

or are you perhaps comparing it to other minorities of people with minority opinions about covid-19 taking direct action like this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... ories.html

Pray do tell. Just what IS your point in posting that article Tim. No need to be coy.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Wed May 13, 2020 4:49 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Is what is happening with this virus, nothing out of the realm of the unusual and just akin to flu virus outbreaks that go around every decade or so , or not Tim?


Yes, I believe so. Compare it to what happened in the 1968 Hong Kong epidemic.


As a man keen on discrepancies you seen no discrepancy with having to use and event that happen 52 years ago as proof that it is something that happens every decade or so ? None at all ?

Or let me make it even simpler for you. Would you claim that world wars are something that happen every decade or so ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

your confirmation bias is showing real bad on this one Tim.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 13, 2020 4:54 pm

I have come across this curiosity, from the time the Guardian was still a newspaper (rather than being a paid-for mouthpiece for the Gates Foundation):

Drug companies face European inquiry over swine flu vaccine stockpiles

Council of Europe to discuss whether pharmaceutical firms spread alarm over pandemic to boost orders of medicines

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/ ... ine-europe

As to the story, “plus ça change”.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 13, 2020 5:05 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Is what is happening with this virus, nothing out of the realm of the unusual and just akin to flu virus outbreaks that go around every decade or so , or not Tim?


Yes, I believe so. Compare it to what happened in the 1968 Hong Kong epidemic.


As a man keen on discrepancies you seen no discrepancy with having to use and event that happen 52 years ago as proof that it is something that happens every decade or so ? None at all ?

Or let me make it even simpler for you. Would you claim that world wars are something that happen every decade or so ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

your confirmation bias is showing real bad on this one Tim.


From your favourite source:
“In the 2017 to 2018 winter period, there were an estimated 50,100 excess winter deaths in England and Wales.

Over one-third (34.7%) of all excess winter deaths were caused by respiratory diseases.”

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... o2017final

If we assume the 34.7% to be down to the flu, that makes for around 17,385 flu deaths that winter.
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Postby erolz66 » Wed May 13, 2020 5:07 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:I have come across this curiosity, from the time the Guardian was still a newspaper (rather than being a paid-for mouthpiece for the Gates Foundation):

Drug companies face European inquiry over swine flu vaccine stockpiles

Council of Europe to discuss whether pharmaceutical firms spread alarm over pandemic to boost orders of medicines

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/ ... ine-europe

As to the story, “plus ça change”.


STOP THE PRESSES - huge drug company tries to exploit situation to its commercial advantage !!!

What would we all do without your extra ordinary 'insight' Tim and your generous sharing of it with all us sheep ?

Are world wars events that happen every decade or so Tim ? Tough question ?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Wed May 13, 2020 5:13 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Is what is happening with this virus, nothing out of the realm of the unusual and just akin to flu virus outbreaks that go around every decade or so , or not Tim?


Yes, I believe so. Compare it to what happened in the 1968 Hong Kong epidemic.


As a man keen on discrepancies you seen no discrepancy with having to use and event that happen 52 years ago as proof that it is something that happens every decade or so ? None at all ?

Or let me make it even simpler for you. Would you claim that world wars are something that happen every decade or so ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

your confirmation bias is showing real bad on this one Tim.


From your favourite source:
“In the 2017 to 2018 winter period, there were an estimated 50,100 excess winter deaths in England and Wales.

Over one-third (34.7%) of all excess winter deaths were caused by respiratory diseases.”

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... o2017final

If we assume the 34.7% to be down to the flu, that makes for around 17,385 flu deaths that winter.


Do you understand what Excess WINTER deaths are Tim ? What the measurement measures ? What the formula for it is ? It is the measurement of how many more people die in WINTER than SUMMER in a given year. Try reading the very thing you THINK shows what you want it to show but in fact that does not show it at all, unless you are drenched in the great smell of confirmation bias.

When you are in a confirmation bias hole as big as the one you have dug yourself in to, you might be well advised to stop digging. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Shall we try and get back to reality for a moment ?

In reality no sane sensible person would try and claim that world wars are events that happen every decade or so. There has to be a reason why someone apparent sane and normal would try and make such a claim.

In reality the FACTS are that excess deaths seen in ONS mortality data are ALREADY greater than any previous such spikes seen since AT LEAST 1968 and arguably are as big as that or even greater. FACT.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 13, 2020 5:15 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I have come across this curiosity, from the time the Guardian was still a newspaper (rather than being a paid-for mouthpiece for the Gates Foundation):

Drug companies face European inquiry over swine flu vaccine stockpiles

Council of Europe to discuss whether pharmaceutical firms spread alarm over pandemic to boost orders of medicines

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/ ... ine-europe

As to the story, “plus ça change”.


STOP THE PRESSES - huge drug company tries to exploit situation to its commercial advantage !!!

What would we all do without your extra ordinary 'insight' Tim and your generous sharing of it with all us sheep ?

Are world wars events that happen every decade or so Tim ? Tough question ?


You have missed the point I am afraid, which is: why is the Guardian no longer capable of doing this kind of principled reporting with something very similar happening now?

As to your question, as far as I know, only two wars have ever been described as "world wars" and one took place in 1914-1918 and the other took place in 1939-1945, so, no they don't happen every decade or so.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed May 13, 2020 5:16 pm

German pulmonologist Wolfgang Wodarg, someone who has had the spine to stand up to big pharma for many years despite knowing they have the power to destroy academic careers, has written a blistering article in English. Here is a taster:

Besides the WHO, the fear-mongers are again some virologists I already know from the past. Most of them – and this is unfortunately already “new normality” everywhere at medical institutes today – have established close cooperation with the pharmaceutical industry or other investors.

Nowadays it is easier to become a professor if you have shown skills in obtaining third-party funds. Science has become accustomed to “cheating”, and the universities make this easier through non-transparent spin-offs, public-private partnerships or cooperation with alleged charitable foundations.

The virology department of the Berlin Charité is supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation regarding Covid-19. A co-author of the PCR test by Drosten et al. is the CEO of the biotech company TIB Molbiol, which is now increasingly producing tests and selling them for millions. However, these are detective secondary findings that do not explain by far what is turning this world upside down.

The majority of experts can no longer deny that the danger of infections in Germany and its neighbouring countries has already passed, without embarrassing themselves for the rest of their careers.

And yet there are people in governments, public offices and the scientific community who want to lock us up with fear and keep on patronizing us.

My annoyance about this medically incomprehensible panic mongering and about many epidemic-hygienically nonsensical authorizations and freedom-withdrawing disciplinary measures is also accompanied by the curiosity of a “medical detective” who is concerned about possible hidden motives.


https://off-guardian.org/2020/05/13/cov ... TIRpW2Mjd8
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