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Postby Paphitis » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:23 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I am talking about ratings.


You are making claims about ratings without providing ANY evidence in support of those claims, credible or not. Now go away and find the evidence in things like the Nielsen ratings and you might be able to make a compelling case IF the evidence is there. I strongly suspect it is not and you are just 'making up as you go along' just like Trump does.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cnn-a ... c-ratings/

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/cnn-and-msnbc-ratings/

people have woken up to fake news.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:38 pm

CrookedRiverGuy wrote:This graph is alarming: discharged vs deaths is pointing in the wrong direction.

One possible interpretation is that the Chinese covered up deaths, whilst western societies are reluctant to classify people as discharged.

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Now, since you don't necessarily read the Guardian, it's time to snap out of this TDS.

Trump's matter of fact language and rhetoric is what people have been crying for a very long time.

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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:00 pm

Just throwing this out there.

Is there a correlation between how wealthy a nation is and the degree to which there is panic buying and hoarding going in the shops there ?
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby miltiades » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:12 pm

Its good to see that Russia is sending 100
Medical specialists and medical to Italy.
Well done Putin.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:31 pm

erolz66 wrote:Just throwing this out there.

Is there a correlation between how wealthy a nation is and the degree to which there is panic buying and hoarding going in the shops there ?

Topped up on a few essentials this morning in Limassol in Lidl, Alpha Mega and the local supermarket and it was all very quite everywhere. Empty car parks but with full shelves ..... nothing appears to be in short supply.

We had to pick up some tablets from the Vet's. The people were spaced out across the pavement with their pets on leads or in carry boxes ...... and the staff were coming out to them! Checking what was needed for the dog/cat then taking the animal and leaving the owner waiting outside. The wife just wanted these tablets told the lady at the door what she wanted and she went inside to get them and she paid her at the door. Well organised ..... luckily the pavement is very wide, maybe 5-6m so everyone was able to keep their social spacing.

The roads are empty!

I was impressed ...... the people here seem to be taking it all very seriously and acting responsibly. :D
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Kikapu » Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:41 pm

erolz66 wrote:Just throwing this out there.

Is there a correlation between how wealthy a nation is and the degree to which there is panic buying and hoarding going in the shops there ?


YES!
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:17 pm

miltiades wrote:Its good to see that Russia is sending 100
Medical specialists and medical to Italy.
Well done Putin.


As opposed to the US aid going to Iran (NOT). Us sanctions are preventing Iran even buying masks or rubber gloves, let alone essential medicines and the US have refused to lift them. Iranians too are relying on both Russia and China for their medical supplies. Well done Putin and Xi ! roll:
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:20 pm

Kikapu wrote:
erolz66 wrote:Just throwing this out there.

Is there a correlation between how wealthy a nation is and the degree to which there is panic buying and hoarding going in the shops there ?


YES!


Surely it is also down to the mentality of the individual, maybe those in the richer nations feel they have a sense of entitlement because of their greater wealth. :(
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby erolz66 » Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:35 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
erolz66 wrote:Just throwing this out there.

Is there a correlation between how wealthy a nation is and the degree to which there is panic buying and hoarding going in the shops there ?


YES!


Surely it is also down to the mentality of the individual, maybe those in the richer nations feel they have a sense of entitlement because of their greater wealth. :(


I certainly do not claim to have a hard view or evidence on the initial 'conjecture'. I think it is within the realms of possibility that there is some material degree of correlation with multiple possible explanations. Like

The wealthier a given country is the greater proportion of people it will contain that have enough cash on hand to even be able to consider hoarding in response to the current crisis. But also explanations like the wealthier a given country is the more selfish people on average are because the degree to which they are historically used to being able to 'do what they like when they like without limit' is greater than in less wealthy nations.

All just idle musing on part.
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Re: Still no confirmed Corona cases in Cyprus, but for how l

Postby Paphitis » Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:43 pm

Hoarding has almost become a necessity now in most countries because when you find something that is in short supply, you will buy it because you know if you don't, the hoarders will leave you wanting later on.

Most people are inherently good people and not selfish.

In my experience, the thing I have noticed here in Australia is that the hoarders seem to mostly be immigrants and migrants and people of lower socio-economic standing. Professionals like lawyers and Doctors, Police, Health Workers and other white collar professionals don't seem to hoard as much and also seem to have cooler heads.

The Indians are the worst. Followed by the Chinese. When you go shopping and there are specials on, they buy the entire shelf. Australians seem to buy what the need. Greeks and Italians hoard a bit more but not as much as Asians do.

Usually, it's the Asians and Europeans (Greeks and Italians) that expect a major crisis and start to panic buy. And some of it could be due to language barriers. they fear a lock down. And some of them think they won't be able to buy groceries. However, Australians are more likely to know that even during a shut down, supermarkets will remain open and people will be allowed to leave their houses only for shopping. That is what is happening in Italy and Spain.

Even under the worst scenario and the Government shuts everything down including supermarkets, Emergency Services will be conducting welfare checks on the population, house to house and will even drop off rations and essential supplies like medicine and food. they have said this will occur. They won't expect people to lock themselves in their houses and run out of food. They will especially be checking on the elderly.

Asians also think the shut down will last for months on end, whilst Australians know the shut down will be for 14 to 21 days.

There is the other side of the coin as well. Australians are naturally very laid back people, like the Italians and Greeks are. they are always out at restaurants, bars, at the beach and are very social creatures. Which raises the risk of the C19 spread more likely due to carelessness, whilst the Chinese and Indians have literally locked themselves in their houses and only come out to shop everyday and buy whatever they can.

I personally refuse to go shopping and I told my wife to not line up in the morning when the shops will open. For me, it's these people that will get the virus. It's ironic that the hoarders and preppers are actually exposing themselves more and risk getting C19.

latest situation here is that we are headed for a shut down. A total shut down. I'm in isolation till Thursday as I had my swab today and then I go back to work and have been issued with a letter as an essential services worker so I can cross state lines into certain states. Which also means I can come back home because the State I live in plans to shut its borders.

Schools are likely to close by end of the week, although the Government is trying to get the kids finisg=h thge term so that the kids and teachers can self isolate during the 2 week break which means they minimize disruption.
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