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One of Trump’s punks… now in some smelly Venezuelan dungeon murmuring “Kill me… Kill me… Kill me… Kill me…”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... p-rallies/

[Kikapu]

So, here is a question for all those who were/are against the lockdowns and who believe the Covid-19 is not any worse than a flu related illnesses, which is, once the lockdowns are eased, will you continue living your lives same as before the pandemic in having parties, group dinners, social gatherings, go to pups, restaurant, theaters and so on, or will you apply social distancing just to be on the safe side from the pandemic until a vaccine is found?

Sadly, I suspect we will not be allowed to do any of those things 'normally' for the foreseeable future. Certainly, no governments are going to go directly from Lock-down back to to 'normal''...

And I also suspect it is highly unlikely there will be an effective vaccine anytime soon either.

Yes, you are quite right that not everything will return to normal pre shutdowns just yet, but nothing to stop you from holding large group events in private in your home.

[cyprusgrump]

So, here is a question for all those who were/are against the lockdowns and who believe the Covid-19 is not any worse than a flu related illnesses, which is, once the lockdowns are eased, will you continue living your lives same as before the pandemic in having parties, group dinners, social gatherings, go to pups, restaurant, theaters and so on, or will you apply social distancing just to be on the safe side from the pandemic until a vaccine is found?

Sadly, I suspect we will not be allowed to do any of those things 'normally' for the foreseeable future. Certainly, no governments are going to go directly from Lock-down back to to 'normal''...

And I also suspect it is highly unlikely there will be an effective vaccine anytime soon either.

Yes, you are quite right that not everything will return to normal pre shutdowns just yet, but nothing to stop you from holding large group events in private in your home.

I'm guessing that there might be restrictions on the number that can gather in one place - we'll have to wait and see.

[cyprusgrump]

It’s not possible to create a vaccine against a virus that keeps morphing.

Indeed, one of the bloggers I've followed for years posted this this earlier today...

However, it has certainly been used to terrify people into accepting total control over their lives. With considerable success. Many people want a lockdown until there is a vaccine. There will never be one. It’s a single strand of RNA in a lipid/protein coat, no matter what the vaccine sellers tell you it will mutate like a bastard. It is inherently unstable. There is no vaccine for the common cold and no truly effective vaccine against flu because they are the same class of viruses. Lockdown until there is a vaccine means lockdown forever.

Clicky...

[erolz66]

So, here is a question for all those who were/are against the lockdowns and who believe the Covid-19 is not any worse than a flu related illnesses, which is, once the lockdowns are eased, will you continue living your lives same as before the pandemic in having parties, group dinners, social gatherings, go to pups, restaurant, theaters and so on, or will you apply social distancing just to be on the safe side from the pandemic until a vaccine is found?

Sadly, I suspect we will not be allowed to do any of those things 'normally' for the foreseeable future. Certainly, no governments are going to go directly from Lock-down back to to 'normal''...

And I also suspect it is highly unlikely there will be an effective vaccine anytime soon either.

Yes, you are quite right that not everything will return to normal pre shutdowns just yet, but nothing to stop you from holding large group events in private in your home.

I'm guessing that there might be restrictions on the number that can gather in one place - we'll have to wait and see.

Just answer the question your squirming little toad. And answer 'how many' as well why you at it.

[erolz66]

It’s not possible to create a vaccine against a virus that keeps morphing.

Indeed, one of the bloggers I've followed for years posted this this earlier today...

However, it has certainly been used to terrify people into accepting total control over their lives. With considerable success. Many people want a lockdown until there is a vaccine. There will never be one. It’s a single strand of RNA in a lipid/protein coat, no matter what the vaccine sellers tell you it will mutate like a bastard. It is inherently unstable. There is no vaccine for the common cold and no truly effective vaccine against flu because they are the same class of viruses. Lockdown until there is a vaccine means lockdown forever.

Clicky...

So much ignorance. The common cold virus does NOT mutate. The reason there is no vaccine is because the bodies immune system forgets the specific immune response for some reason not understood. Flu virus mutates alot and thus there are vaccines but of limited efficacy and they change annually. We do not know what the characteristics will be for covid-19 or for the bodies immune response. Only time can tell those things.

Thus the ENTIRE premise of your post and so called expert is just plain out and out wrong. That because flu, common colds and covid-19 are all from the conona virus family this means they all behave the same and there can and never will be a vaccine. WRONG. That is just factually WRONG. Cov-d19 might behave like flu and mutate alot. It might be that it does not mutate but the bodies immune system forgets the specific response making any vaccine pointless, like with the common cold. It might be that it neither mutates and nor does the body forget the specific response. All of these are possible and combinations of them. People like you and your 'source' who claim to know things like 'there will never be a covid-19 vaccine are liars and they lie to try and achieve a desired result. That they do this whilst also bemoaning 'fear mongers' makes them hypocritical liars to boot.

Whats the number CG ? Is the reason you will not answer this is because you know there is NO number of global infections or deaths that will change your mind ?

This single post by you CG pretty much proves you are just a Zealot. That you will say anything , or support anyone else who says anything, divorced from any effort of having to think at all, if it supports your pre chosen 'side'. QED

[cyprusgrump]

So, here is a question for all those who were/are against the lockdowns and who believe the Covid-19 is not any worse than a flu related illnesses, which is, once the lockdowns are eased, will you continue living your lives same as before the pandemic in having parties, group dinners, social gatherings, go to pups, restaurant, theaters and so on, or will you apply social distancing just to be on the safe side from the pandemic until a vaccine is found?

Sadly, I suspect we will not be allowed to do any of those things 'normally' for the foreseeable future. Certainly, no governments are going to go directly from Lock-down back to to 'normal''...

And I also suspect it is highly unlikely there will be an effective vaccine anytime soon either.

Yes, you are quite right that not everything will return to normal pre shutdowns just yet, but nothing to stop you from holding large group events in private in your home.

I'm guessing that there might be restrictions on the number that can gather in one place - we'll have to wait and see.

Just answer the question your squirming little toad. And answer 'how many' as well why you at it.

I honestly have no idea what you are on about or why you have this sudden inexplicable obsession with 'how many'...

But then I tend not to read your pompous, Straw Man filled posts any more so I may have missed something which you consider to be important...

No, don't waste your time explaining it (or asking the same question again ), I almost certainly won't read it and am unlikely to give you the answer you seek.

[erolz66]

I honestly have no idea what you are on about or why you have this sudden inexplicable obsession with 'how many'...

You entire 'argument' has been 'look at the numbers globally - they do not justify the response'

When the number of dead was 50k this was your 'argument'
When the number of dead was <150K this was your 'argument'
When the number of dead was 160K this was your 'argument'
When the number of dead was 230k this was your 'argument'
When the number of dead was 260k this was your 'argument'

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So how high CG ? 500K ? 1 million ? 3 Million ? 6 Million ? 60 million ? How many dead before you are able to conceive that you were wrong and see the stupidity of your 'argument' ? My money is on 'there is no number capable of doing that'.

[erolz66]

For real information on 'immunity' to covid-19 and chances of a vaccine, by people with knowledge and who are NOT just fear mongering to serve an agenda (there will never be a vaccine - stop the lockdown) then this would not be too bad a place to start.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video ... -explainer

[Paphitis]

It’s not possible to create a vaccine against a virus that keeps morphing.

All keep morphing but we have managed to get on top of the common flu and other virus by changing the vaccines with different strains.

They can find a vaccine, it will just take a bit of time.

It's also possible to eradicate it. Countries like Australia and Cyprus are almost there. problem is, the problem in Europe, and North America is so big, they probably won't be able to which leaves countries like Australia and Cyprus locking down their borders to arrivals from those badly affected countries otherwise we would just import the problem again and find ourselves back to square 1.