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[CrookedRiverGuy]

So we are discussing measures now, not numbers?

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[erolz66]

Thanks for introducing me to Dr Rashid Buttar. Just by chance I caught the last hour or so of a detailed interview with him that was being shown on You Tube, and I found his ideas interesting. Of course, plenty here will accuse me of confirmation bias. So, I repeat my plea. Help me out and direct me to an interview with or article by a highly qualified health professional who argues with the same passion that the media is telling you the truth about Covid-19 and the measures being taken in response to it are proportional and correct. I will be happy to look at it.

Seriously Tim ?

All I am am 'hearing' with the above is 'Show me an interview with an expert who says the media is telling you the truth OR accept that the experts I think (guess) are the ones everyone should be listening to and should inform public policy are the right ones' ? Or is that unfair ?

I also notice no comment from you about Paphitis' other 'recommended expert' David Icke ! Nada. Nothing.

[Paphitis]

Dr Erickson and colleague give an informative briefing on Covid-19 in California:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLVxx_ ... Uawr9k4oBI

You might be interested in watching ALL of this video.

An Interview of Dr Rashid. Banned from YouTube and Google.

https://londonreal.tv/digital-freedom-p ... id-buttar/

And this from David Icke

https://londonreal.tv/the-coronavirus-c ... avid-icke/

Thanks for introducing me to Dr Rashid Buttar. Just by chance I caught the last hour or so of a detailed interview with him that was being shown on You Tube, and I found his ideas interesting. Of course, plenty here will accuse me of confirmation bias. So, I repeat my plea. Help me out and direct me to an interview with or article by a highly qualified health professional who argues with the same passion that the media is telling you the truth about Covid-19 and the measures being taken in response to it are proportional and correct. I will be happy to look at it.

It pays to keep an open mind Tim and to question things.

Those who accuse you of confirmation bias have no ability for critical thinking than to just accept what the media want us to believe. Those who just accept the chosen narrative at the time, keep going back to the same MSM sources to feed the narrative some more. It happens every time we turn on the TV, or check out any of a variety of media sources owned by the top 6 media moguls.

No one can deny that Rashid is an intelligent man and has his heart in the right place. Whether he is correct or not - I don't know.

David Icke is an interesting character. Also, extremely intelligent and a successful sportsman and sports commentators who had the world at his feet. He has some out there ideas for sure, and he concerns himself with the erosion of our civil liberties. I would love to have this guy at my dinner table as he is a very fascinating individual.

There is a lot the media omit because it doesn't fit the narrative. And there is a lot the media do, to target those who fight the narrative.

Trump is fighting the narrative and treats the media with the contempt they deserve. What is the narrative. Well its globalism. Some say a one world government. They want to control the masses so they can't or are unable to vote for things like BREXIT or elect people like Trump - which go against the globalist elite narratives.

Look at all the people who are against Trump for instance. Is gates against him? All of Hollywood? The entire MSM minus an exception like FOX? His opponents should be in jail, but wants I start that one I need some time. Clinton should be in jail if they followed the letter of the law. What she did with her emails would have landed anyone in jail. That just got brushed under the carpet.

Why is Epstein dead? What are they hiding? So many questions, but most people are not asking and just accept the narrative.

[Get Real!]

If 50,000 died in America, in just two months and with so many restrictions in place… imagine what would happen if they were to return to normality; millions would be dead by December!

This is basic common sense that doesn't require a microbiologist's qualification.

[Paphitis]

If 50,000 died in America, in just two months and with so many restrictions in place… imagine what would happen if they were to return to normality; millions would be dead by December!

This is basic common sense that doesn't require a microbiologist's qualification.

There will be a normality.

The US is starting to come back now, so they are on the downward trend but not out of the woods.

50,000 dead? Well that could be very questionable.

There is definitely a solution and a way out. Even if 10s of thousands of people die, we do actually need to open the global economy up again. Destroying the lives of 7 billion people is no way to solve this. But the elites don't want to open the economy. Your mate Gates wants us in house arrest until they inject us with some kind of poison.

He also wants to microchip everyone. Australia, Netherlands and Germany are introducing tech that tracks and traces every individual. The big tech companies are banning and de-platforming anyone who goes against the narrative saying they are fear mongering and spreading conspiracy theories. That is not a judgement they should be entitled to make.

In the end, people need to make a decision. Do they want an Orwellian State or do they value their freedom? Right now, the plebs are wanting an Orwellian State, and the rest of us will lose our civil liberties as well.

Which is the reason why people like Trump are critically important. He is against the Orwellian State. Always has been. He is also a protectionist. That makes him against Globalism and more pro America.

Look at where the world has gone with Brexit and Trump and look at all the derangement syndrome from the elites who CONTROL YOU and the narrative. Because of BREXIT and TRUMP, the Gates of this world, those who control the MSM, Hollywood, and other privileged elites now think we are all VERY NAUGHTY for not doing WHAT THEY WANT. So now the want to ground us.

The previous generations were controlled by the TV and wireless. it was an easy and simple process. Today, they can't control us so easily because of the internet, but they want to now censor it to regain control.

Plus you got to differentiate between money and power. Because it is harder for them to control us, they lose their power over us.

Why does Gates want to Chip us? because they will be able to track every single person. Monitor which shops they go to and what they buy. Power and control. They want to see what we look at on our computers, and the want to also control the dissemination of this information. Now that's Gates core business. Same with Murdoch and many others like them.

Now I'm not saying Chy-na Virus has anything to do with that. It could be completely wrong. I simply do not know and neither do any of us. But it is healthy to question things because I can't see that what we are fed by the MSM as being entirely accurate.

Right now, my pet peeve is the murder of Epstein. That man should have been in maximum security and in a padded cell. He was going to talk. But what was he going to reveal? He was going to reveal the Dark side of all these elites and so many powerful people within those elites would have crashed and burned as a result of it. For this, I would have even been in favour of a Presidential Pardon for Epstein, because he would have helped the authorities destroy this seedy underworld. And believe me, it's seedy. Who else was involved? Well now, we will never know.

There is a lot more Trump knows as well, but can't reveal. The elites know he is aware of the dirt as well. Especially all the dirt involving the Clinton Family. Recently, he just pardoned a former high ranking officer of the US Military who accused Clinton of a murder which was also caught on tape.

There is a lot going on and it involves our children. They tried to embroil Trump into it but Trump isn't a kiddy fiddler. You can tell 100% that trump is an individual you can trust with a child.

Even if none of it is true, I can definitely tell you that Hillary Clinton should be in jail just merely for using a web based email service like gmail, or hotmail on official Government Business involving State Secrets. If anyone else did that, they would be toast. So there are rules for some, and rules for others.

Trump was right when he said at a debate that Hillary Clinton should be in jail. he said it on National TV and straight to her face and all she could do is offer a cheeky grin as if Trump is crazy. Well trump isn't the crazy one. In fact I rate his intelligence in business and the manner in which he talks and operates. It's very smooth and he knows how to manipulate the media and target his supporter base. He has been able to tap into the growing discontent of people. And the people need someone they think they can trust because he is at least going against the grain. Even those comments about disinfectant. I think he put it out there as a deliberate ploy to enrage the media into calling him stupid. the more they call him stupid, the more votes Trump will get. he has it all worked out! And this is an election year. Which I may also add. there are those who want Cy-na Virus to get out of control and kill hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions so they can blame Trump. But he will be immune to this as well as the people who support Trump can see this. Some people are even saying it was deliberately released to destroy Trump. The timing is interesting,. Whether it is true or not, I again, can't say I know. Probably isn't.

I mean look at the likes of Erolz and Lordo who hate him. The average guy on the street is going to be more determined to vote for Trump after reading the insufferable nonsense emanating from those 2 and their likes. And it's OK to be against Trump. Tim Drayton is against him but does it in a considered manner and with some actual finesse and style. If the world was like Tim Drayton, then Trump would have his work cut out for him. But the world isn't like that. they are more like insufferable bozos that talk down on you.

[Paphitis]

And here is another consideration. Americans are sick of wars. One war after another.

Trump won the last election because he was anti polemic.

And since he gained office, he kept his promise.

The most polemic actions he did, was hitting a Syrian Air Base with 21 Cruise missiles after a Syrian Chemical Attack. That is fair enough! I would have done the same.

The only other polemic thing Trump did, is launch a few Cruise Missiles into Iran, because they were messing with International Shipping in the Straits of Homuz. Another fair call by Trump and completely warranted.

But guess what? Not even a single way started by trump. Absolutely nothing. In fact, he was even talking to Kim Jong Un of North Korea. Nothing wrong with that either. Dialogue should always be the first port of call.
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If the MSM and elites were sincere, Trump should be a Nobel Peace Prize Winner!

But the MSM and elites are not sincere. trump is against the narrative. Clinton wasn't. So now they are going to keep releasing the narrative of "Trump is bad. Orange man Bad". But the more that's done, the stronger Trump gets. It's poetic to see.

[Get Real!]

And here is another consideration. Americans are sick of wars. One war after another.

Trump won the last election because he was anti polemic.

And since he gained office, he kept his promise.

Re Paphiti... don't you ever tire of making a fool of yourself?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/ ... 58633.html


DEN EXIS TSIPPA RE GAMOTO???

[Paphitis]

And here is another consideration. Americans are sick of wars. One war after another.

Trump won the last election because he was anti polemic.

And since he gained office, he kept his promise.

Re Paphiti... don't you ever tire of making a fool of yourself?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/ ... 58633.html


DEN EXIS TSIPPA RE GAMOTO???

What I am saying are the facts. He is the most anti polemic POTUS in recent history.

Better than every POTUS since WW2.

If Hillary was in, the US would be at war with Iran right now. Probably with North Korea as well. But what Trump did was almost completely diffuse the situation on the Korean Peninsular. all that because he was prepared to have a chat with Kim Jong Un and talk about stuff. The missile launches stopped and everyone just relaxed a bit.

[Get Real!]

What I am saying are the facts. He is the most anti polemic POTUS in recent history.

Ehis provlima re Paphitoudi... den to vlebis? Then eisai kala...

[Paphitis]

What I am saying are the facts. He is the most anti polemic POTUS in recent history.

Ehis provlima re Paphitoudi... den to vlebis? Then eisai kala...

What I am saying are the facts. He is the most anti polemic POTUS in recent history.

Better than every POTUS since WW2.

If Hillary was in, the US would be at war with Iran right now. Probably with North Korea as well. But what Trump did was almost completely diffuse the situation on the Korean Peninsular. all that because he was prepared to have a chat with Kim Jong Un and talk about stuff. The missile launches stopped and everyone just relaxed a bit.

Facts are facts Get Real!