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[Paphitis]

Chicago O’Hare is the biggest hub followed by Newark then LA, Washington and San Francisco

But usually with overlays there is no time to see anything much as get in at night, have minimum rest and up with the sparrows next morning to do it again. It’s a 4 day cycle leading to some days off for rest. Typical line is 16 days of flying per month.

And there could be some short reserve days (2 hours to get to airport in your domicile) and long reserve days (12 hours to get to airport anywhere in USA).

Btw, 760 aircraft in the fleet and there are lots of Airbus). But usually Boeing crews are cross endorsed with other Boeing and Airbus crews cross endorsed with other Airbus to keep things simple for their training and for the pilots.

Plus there are a heap of B757s which is awesome. B767s are approaching end of life, then the B777 and B787.

Speaking about sexy planes. That B757 is just as sexy as they come.

[Kikapu]

You are definitely going to fly over some great landscapes in the USA, especially the western parts, not to mention “city of lights” whenever you make a night landings in big cities like Los Angeles, Dallas, New York, Atlanta, Chicago, Miami, San Francisco Bay Area and of course, Las Vegas. You will become a “flying tourist” yourself with a bird’s eye view..

I can’t wait Kikapu.

All these wonderful places. I think the USA is going to be a lot of fun. I can’t wait to have regular overlays in San Francisco, Las Vegas and fly over the Rockies, and yeh go to Miami, Dallas and Denver. It’s all pretty cool stuff.

The major hubs for us are LA, San Francisco, Houston, Denver, Washington, Chicago and Newark/NYC. The hubs are massive with about 100,000 passengers being moved from the major ones. Smallest 60,000 passengers a day. Everything in America is just in huge proportions. Kind of hard to wrap my head around it all.

I asked about an LA, San Francisco or Denver domicile but was not granted that as they said only Newark and Chicago are available to be as that is where their needs are pressing and because of the seniority bidding rules. But could be open down the track.

I got this thing about Denver. Such a very pretty place. Suits my style better too but wife is dead set sold on NYC.

Then you are talking about UA with their above major hubs.

Well, it definitely won’t be empty spaces at night across the land as you would perhaps expect in Australia. There will always be bright spots lit up not too far from the last one. I used to fly often at nights in the cockpit with FedEx to Memphis and Denver from SFO/OAK, mostly in B-727s, DC-10s or B-747s after they took over Flying Tigers. This was back in 1990 ish!

We have some pilots/flight attendants who keep a small boat in our marina as their “crash pad” as they are based at SFO but live elsewhere. Often hang out together at our humble yacht club for drinks or pot luck dinners.

[Kikapu]

A question.
The other day Turkish authorities arrested the captain of Pegasus which overshot the runway in Istanbul and landed 30 meters down the ditch killing 3 passengers and injuring many more. What can the police charge him criminally with if he had authorization to land despite difficult conditions? I can expect civil suit against the airline at later stage for wrongful death and injury, but what can he be charged with by overshooting the runway?

[Paphitis]

You are definitely going to fly over some great landscapes in the USA, especially the western parts, not to mention “city of lights” whenever you make a night landings in big cities like Los Angeles, Dallas, New York, Atlanta, Chicago, Miami, San Francisco Bay Area and of course, Las Vegas. You will become a “flying tourist” yourself with a bird’s eye view..

I can’t wait Kikapu.

All these wonderful places. I think the USA is going to be a lot of fun. I can’t wait to have regular overlays in San Francisco, Las Vegas and fly over the Rockies, and yeh go to Miami, Dallas and Denver. It’s all pretty cool stuff.

The major hubs for us are LA, San Francisco, Houston, Denver, Washington, Chicago and Newark/NYC. The hubs are massive with about 100,000 passengers being moved from the major ones. Smallest 60,000 passengers a day. Everything in America is just in huge proportions. Kind of hard to wrap my head around it all.

I asked about an LA, San Francisco or Denver domicile but was not granted that as they said only Newark and Chicago are available to be as that is where their needs are pressing and because of the seniority bidding rules. But could be open down the track.

I got this thing about Denver. Such a very pretty place. Suits my style better too but wife is dead set sold on NYC.

Then you are talking about UA with their above major hubs.

Well, it definitely won’t be empty spaces at night across the land as you would perhaps expect in Australia. There will always be bright spots lit up not too far from the last one. I used to fly often at nights in the cockpit with FedEx to Memphis and Denver from SFO/OAK, mostly in B-727s, DC-10s or B-747s after they took over Flying Tigers. This was back in 1990 ish!

We have some pilots/flight attendants who keep a small boat in our marina as their “crash pad” as they are based at SFO but live elsewhere. Often hang out together at our humble yacht club for drinks or pot luck dinners.

USA is quite crowded compared to USA. The only real busy airports in Australia are Sydney and Melbourne. Also Brisbane and Perth but to a lesser extent. Usually there are delays at peak times into Sydney. But in the US, it's a different ballgame altogether. Air Traffic Control need to be very efficient over their controlling the flow and slot arrivals down into very small windows. Not much margin for error.

It's interesting what you say about crash pads because the airline usually offers fairly descent hotels which allow everyone adequate rest and sleep.

Plus they offer a per diem payment for food which is quite generous. You can choose to spend a fair chunk of it or a little chunk depending on how you like to eat. I normally like to eat a very square and healthy meal.

Maybe if they use their own accommodation, they can choose to be re-imbursed further. Don't know how that works.

[Paphitis]

A question.
The other day Turkish authorities arrested the captain of Pegasus which overshot the runway in Istanbul and landed 30 meters down the ditch killing 3 passengers and injuring many more. What can the police charge him criminally with if he had authorization to land despite difficult conditions? I can expect civil suit against the airline at later stage for wrongful death and injury, but what can he be charged with by overshooting the runway?

I have no idea what they can charge him with Kikapu.

Even if the mishap was due to any negligence, the authorities shouldn't be able to arrest him at all. In addition, there has been no investigation to ascertain what has happened.

In Australia and US (I presume) pilots are encouraged to not speak to anyone, or any media or with the regulator until the Union arrive with their lawyers. This is done in order to protect us.

I have never heard of a pilot being arrested like that in Australia.

I woke up to the news that the US Stock Markets took a massive tumble this morning due to Corona Virus. I hope everything is OK because I have been in the industry long enough to know that the industry is so volatile to major crisis like Corona.

Things can go from gangbuster to bust very quickly.

[Kikapu]

You are definitely going to fly over some great landscapes in the USA, especially the western parts, not to mention “city of lights” whenever you make a night landings in big cities like Los Angeles, Dallas, New York, Atlanta, Chicago, Miami, San Francisco Bay Area and of course, Las Vegas. You will become a “flying tourist” yourself with a bird’s eye view..

I can’t wait Kikapu.

All these wonderful places. I think the USA is going to be a lot of fun. I can’t wait to have regular overlays in San Francisco, Las Vegas and fly over the Rockies, and yeh go to Miami, Dallas and Denver. It’s all pretty cool stuff.

The major hubs for us are LA, San Francisco, Houston, Denver, Washington, Chicago and Newark/NYC. The hubs are massive with about 100,000 passengers being moved from the major ones. Smallest 60,000 passengers a day. Everything in America is just in huge proportions. Kind of hard to wrap my head around it all.

I asked about an LA, San Francisco or Denver domicile but was not granted that as they said only Newark and Chicago are available to be as that is where their needs are pressing and because of the seniority bidding rules. But could be open down the track.

I got this thing about Denver. Such a very pretty place. Suits my style better too but wife is dead set sold on NYC.

Then you are talking about UA with their above major hubs.

Well, it definitely won’t be empty spaces at night across the land as you would perhaps expect in Australia. There will always be bright spots lit up not too far from the last one. I used to fly often at nights in the cockpit with FedEx to Memphis and Denver from SFO/OAK, mostly in B-727s, DC-10s or B-747s after they took over Flying Tigers. This was back in 1990 ish!

We have some pilots/flight attendants who keep a small boat in our marina as their “crash pad” as they are based at SFO but live elsewhere. Often hang out together at our humble yacht club for drinks or pot luck dinners.

USA is quite crowded compared to USA. The only real busy airports in Australia are Sydney and Melbourne. Also Brisbane and Perth but to a lesser extent. Usually there are delays at peak times into Sydney. But in the US, it's a different ballgame altogether. Air Traffic Control need to be very efficient over their controlling the flow and slot arrivals down into very small windows. Not much margin for error.

It's interesting what you say about crash pads because the airline usually offers fairly descent hotels which allow everyone adequate rest and sleep.

Plus they offer a per diem payment for food which is quite generous. You can choose to spend a fair chunk of it or a little chunk depending on how you like to eat. I normally like to eat a very square and healthy meal.

Maybe if they use their own accommodation, they can choose to be re-imbursed further. Don't know how that works.

These guys who have their “crash pads” in San Francisco area are based here, but live elsewhere, therefore, their company does not pay for additional hotel and food cost. This is their home base. Some might live 2-4 hours drive away, so they stay close to the airport when they are about to be working or they are on “stand-by”. When they have their 3 days off, then they can go home. Traffic can be brutal at times so they play it safe and stay close to the airport than risk arriving late for work.

[Kikapu]

Stock markets globally are tumbling. Coronavirus is a good reason for some market correction. 10%-15% is just about right before it start going up again......slowly.

[Paphitis]

You are definitely going to fly over some great landscapes in the USA, especially the western parts, not to mention “city of lights” whenever you make a night landings in big cities like Los Angeles, Dallas, New York, Atlanta, Chicago, Miami, San Francisco Bay Area and of course, Las Vegas. You will become a “flying tourist” yourself with a bird’s eye view..

I can’t wait Kikapu.

All these wonderful places. I think the USA is going to be a lot of fun. I can’t wait to have regular overlays in San Francisco, Las Vegas and fly over the Rockies, and yeh go to Miami, Dallas and Denver. It’s all pretty cool stuff.

The major hubs for us are LA, San Francisco, Houston, Denver, Washington, Chicago and Newark/NYC. The hubs are massive with about 100,000 passengers being moved from the major ones. Smallest 60,000 passengers a day. Everything in America is just in huge proportions. Kind of hard to wrap my head around it all.

I asked about an LA, San Francisco or Denver domicile but was not granted that as they said only Newark and Chicago are available to be as that is where their needs are pressing and because of the seniority bidding rules. But could be open down the track.

I got this thing about Denver. Such a very pretty place. Suits my style better too but wife is dead set sold on NYC.

Then you are talking about UA with their above major hubs.

Well, it definitely won’t be empty spaces at night across the land as you would perhaps expect in Australia. There will always be bright spots lit up not too far from the last one. I used to fly often at nights in the cockpit with FedEx to Memphis and Denver from SFO/OAK, mostly in B-727s, DC-10s or B-747s after they took over Flying Tigers. This was back in 1990 ish!

We have some pilots/flight attendants who keep a small boat in our marina as their “crash pad” as they are based at SFO but live elsewhere. Often hang out together at our humble yacht club for drinks or pot luck dinners.

USA is quite crowded compared to USA. The only real busy airports in Australia are Sydney and Melbourne. Also Brisbane and Perth but to a lesser extent. Usually there are delays at peak times into Sydney. But in the US, it's a different ballgame altogether. Air Traffic Control need to be very efficient over their controlling the flow and slot arrivals down into very small windows. Not much margin for error.

It's interesting what you say about crash pads because the airline usually offers fairly descent hotels which allow everyone adequate rest and sleep.

Plus they offer a per diem payment for food which is quite generous. You can choose to spend a fair chunk of it or a little chunk depending on how you like to eat. I normally like to eat a very square and healthy meal.

Maybe if they use their own accommodation, they can choose to be re-imbursed further. Don't know how that works.

These guys who have their “crash pads” in San Francisco area are based here, but live elsewhere, therefore, their company does not pay for additional hotel and food cost. This is their home base. Some might live 2-4 hours drive away, so they stay close to the airport when they are about to be working or they are on “stand-by”. When they have their 3 days off, then they can go home. Traffic can be brutal at times so they play it safe and stay close to the airport than risk arriving late for work.

Oh ok, its their domicile. Like Newark could be mine.

You can live 2 hours away but you can also commute for your 4 day cycle but that is an awful way to go. You can live within 2 hours because short call reserve is 2 hours but long call reserve is 12 hours. That what they do there apparently.

Also, you an bid for your flights and sectors and they are awarded based on your seniority number. Captains and FOs have a seniority level. So in the beginning you get the most awful 0330 starts whilst the senior crew get the gentlemen hours. All within reason of course because if they keep you on the red eyes, your fatigue scores will skyrocket and you will fall off the perch meaning you can't fly.

[Paphitis]

Stock markets globally are tumbling. Coronavirus is a good reason for some market correction. 10%-15% is just about right before it start going up again......slowly.

Yeh I know. Nothing exclusive to the USA but the Aviation Industry is very vulnerable to things like this. It's always the first industry to show signs of stress.

[Kikapu]

Stock markets globally are tumbling. Coronavirus is a good reason for some market correction. 10%-15% is just about right before it start going up again......slowly.

Yeh I know. Nothing exclusive to the USA but the Aviation Industry is very vulnerable to things like this. It's always the first industry to show signs of stress.

If the Coronavirus gets any worse and for a long period of time, it is possible you moving to the states may well be delayed as they will have surplus pilots if many flights are canceled. Seniority is everything in most jobs in the USA, regardless if it’s unionized or not. As you have stated, you will get most of the “shit”runs for the first few years, and the same again if you relocate to another hub. Let’s hope you do not get caught in this from the time you resign from your present job to the next one. It may be prudent for you to wait and see how the Coronavirus plays out before resigning and accepting your new position. As far as I know, most jobs in the USA are not on a guaranteed salary, but instead, earn as you work. If you are not flying and sitting home because lack of work, you don’t have a paycheque (paycheck). I don’t even think you will qualify for unemployment if you haven’t paid into it in sufficient amount yet.