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[MR-from-NG]

I just visited my friend for a our daily coffee. His elder brother who moved to Sweden years ago was there so we started discussing the Cyprus problem, as you so often do. He told us of his experience back in 62. He moved to the UK in 58 and went back to Cyprus in 62. He got a ticket for £36 on an Italian owned boat to travel back to England via Venice.

Anyway, on boarding the boat he noticed the GC's and TC's were segregated. In his own words he said he didn't mind that but what he did mind was the TC's being given cabins in the crew section of the boat. He checked the GC's cabins which were for passengers but the TC's cabins were dirty and clearly for crew. He complained to a senior member of crew and was informed the allocation of cabins was chosen by the agent (Greek company). He pointed out there were empty cabins for paying passengers on the TC side so why weren't they given those cabins and again he was told the allocation of cabins was chosen by the Greek agent. He went and informed all the other TC's of this and they all left their dirty cabins and slept in proper cabins for paying passengers. The crew had to give in in the end as the TC's were determined not to be treated as second class citizens.

I came back to the office and told my elder brother about this. He said he wasn't surprised and told me about his experience in the English school he was attending. My brother was a good footballer and was always selected to the school team here in England. He went to Central Foundation in the city which at the time was an excellent school, probably still is. Anyway, he was never selected nor any other TC's to the football team in the English School in Cyprus until the Headmaster saw 3 TC's having a kick about in the school yard. The Headmaster watched them for about 10-15 minutes and went next to them and asked if they were in the School team. My brother answered, " no Sir we are Turkish so we aren't ever picked for the school team". The Headmaster said "well, we'll see about that" and within half an hour he called the racist cunt of a teacher to his office and ordered him to select my brother and his 2 friends to the team. All 3 TC's were regular players after that.

My dear GC friends, if, and it's a big if. If ever we get to reunite the island this kind of thing has to stop. We must see our fellow man as equal regardless of ethnicity. In the words of Caroline Flack, "In a world where you can be anything, be kind". I will add to that by saying BE KIND AND BE FAIR.

[MR-from-NG]

I dream of a reunited Cyprus but if we're going to have United Racist Cyprus count me out.

[repulsewarrior]

...you should calm yourself; that was '62. Look at the world today. "Niggers" don't hang from trees in the United States, just as those who support them don't, anymore. Though perhaps not by much, but the world has changed. You can take solace in that.

Indeed, the world is a cruel place.

[MR-from-NG]

...you should calm yourself; that was '62. Look at the world today. "Niggers" don't hang from trees in the United States, just as those who support them don't, anymore. Though perhaps not by much, but the world has changed. You can take solace in that.

Indeed, the world is a cruel place.

RW. It would be silly of us to think that was in 62 and "look at the world today". Only 3-4 years ago my friends Austrian wife crossed over to the RoC and got lost getting back to the North. She stopped and asked a presentable well dressed lady for directions to the crossing and she got spat at. Seriously dude, more effort is needed on both sides rather thinking the world has changed for the better since 62.

[Maximus]

I presume the TC's dinndu nuffin to Cyprus and the GC's 50 + years ago and they are doin nuffin now..

[repulsewarrior]

...and you can count on those who think the world is free for them to plunder, will resist; this is natural.

What is important to remember is that "we" are individuals, it as as persons where we may find comfort, but acts are done by you, whether it is "you" that you're doing it for or not. That is the Problem; it has no "Greek" or "Turk" in its solution, nor should it, we are Human beings (and not just Persons).

Having my Faith in Love as an infinite power, i/I do not despair, i serve willingly. Cyprus will be Free, because this too is natural. Having made my choice i do not regret "being" a Cypriot, not "Greek", not "Turkish", although it is difficult not feeling welcome by Greeks and Turks who have bought into the mythical reality that "their" side is completely right in any case.

We need good intentions. If "we" are to resist "them", let's make it clear, in Cyprus; it is not about Greeks against Turks, it is not even about "Greeks" against "Turks", it is about Greeks/Turks against "Greeks"/"Turks".

[MR-from-NG]

I suppose the TC's dinndu nuffin to Cyprus and the GC's 50 + years ago and they are doin nuffin now..

You probably missed this bit in my post Max " Seriously dude, more effort is needed on both sides rather thinking the world has changed for the better since 62.
I'm not claiming TC's are angels but it would be fair to say GC's need to work a little bit harder than TC's to find a balance.

[Maximus]

I suppose the TC's dinndu nuffin to Cyprus and the GC's 50 + years ago and they are doin nuffin now..

You probably missed this bit in my post Max " Seriously dude, more effort is needed on both sides rather thinking the world has changed for the better since 62.
I'm not claiming TC's are angels but it would be fair to say GC's need to work a little bit harder than TC's to find a balance.

No, you are saying that "the balance" is out of wack because of the GC's and the TC's dont have to do nuffin for it to be regained.

Maybe you can be more specific and tell us, what the Gc's have to do to find the balance?

[MR-from-NG]

I suppose the TC's dinndu nuffin to Cyprus and the GC's 50 + years ago and they are doin nuffin now..

You probably missed this bit in my post Max " Seriously dude, more effort is needed on both sides rather thinking the world has changed for the better since 62.
I'm not claiming TC's are angels but it would be fair to say GC's need to work a little bit harder than TC's to find a balance.

No, you are saying that "the balance" is out of wack because of the GC's and the TC's dont have to do nuffin for it to be regained.

Maybe you can be more specific and tell us, what the Gc's have to do to find the balance?

By balance I meant mutual tolerance, love and respect. You could start with your schools and churches. The parents will hopefully follow suit.

[Maximus]

I suppose the TC's dinndu nuffin to Cyprus and the GC's 50 + years ago and they are doin nuffin now..

You probably missed this bit in my post Max " Seriously dude, more effort is needed on both sides rather thinking the world has changed for the better since 62.
I'm not claiming TC's are angels but it would be fair to say GC's need to work a little bit harder than TC's to find a balance.

No, you are saying that "the balance" is out of wack because of the GC's and the TC's dont have to do nuffin for it to be regained.

Maybe you can be more specific and tell us, what the Gc's have to do to find the balance?

By balance I meant mutual tolerance, love and respect. You could start with your schools and churches. The parents will hopefully follow suit.

I can agree with the first sentence, generally speaking but the second and third sentence is just diabolical perpetuated myths.

OK, so what do the TC's need to do?