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[erolz66]

If you accept something which you know is stolen then you are just as criminal as the one who stole it.

Is taking away a communities legal constitutional rights, outside of any legitimate legal process, not stealing ?

You are now trying to present an apartheid as legit.

Not at all. I am making the point that the moral authority and righteous indignation of someone or some entity who complains of being stolen from is undermined if they themselves have stolen from others but act as if they have not.

Those constitutional rights you are referring to are legally invalid.

The rights granted to the TC community in 1960 may well have been unfair but they were legally valid, unless and until a legitimate court with jurisdiction ruled otherwise. One party to a contract can not legally just unilateral declare, after agreeing and signing a contract, that contract is unfair or was signed under duress and then just ignore parts of that contract of their choosing. Only a legitimate court with jurisdiction can legally rule that either the entire contract is invalid or specific parts of it are.

The seizure of peoples property by force in the north post 74 was a theft from those people. Just as the unilateral removal by force of the TC communities rights under the constitution post 63 up till 74 was also theft.

Two wrongs do make make a right but a thief who wails and bemoans they have been stolen from and demands restitution for their loss while denying they themselves have stolen from others is morally bankrupt.

[Maximus]

The only legitimate thing you have said is when you refer to the theft of peoples property in your second from last paragraph.

everything else is just utter nonsense.

Just some false virtue signalling and straw man arguments.

[erolz66]

The only legitimate thing you have said is when you refer to the theft of peoples property in your second from last paragraph.

everything else is just utter nonsense.

Just some false virtue signalling and straw man arguments.

Well a 'thief' in denial would say that wouldn't they ?

Therein lays the difference between us. I recognise the crimes committed by my community against yours as well as those committed by your community against mine. You on the other hand.....

[Maximus]

Are you accusing me of thieving and living in denial.

While trying to present an apartheid enforced by Turkey as the TC's legitimate community rights in Cyprus?

You are a redonkeylous, false virtue signalling plonker.

[Londonrake]

redonkeylous.

I have to Google more stuff from this forum than all the others put together.

[Maximus]

redonkeylous.

I have to Google more stuff from this forum than all the others put together.

Yeah, for the record, it means, infinitely or significantly more absurd than just ridiculous to an almost impossible degree.

You have to be very inept to achieve it.

[erolz66]

Are you accusing me of thieving and living in denial.

While trying to present an apartheid enforced by Turkey as the TC's legitimate community rights in Cyprus?

You are a redonkeylous, false virtue signalling plonker.

I am saying that post 74 we stole land from GC by force and pre 74 you stole TC legal constitutional rights by force. The TC community had no legitimate legal right to seize by force the land it did in 74 just as the GC community had no legitimate legal right to remove by force the constitutional rights granted to the TC community under the 60's agreements. Both were and are wrong.

[Maximus]

Are you accusing me of thieving and living in denial.

While trying to present an apartheid enforced by Turkey as the TC's legitimate community rights in Cyprus?

You are a redonkeylous, false virtue signalling plonker.

I am saying that post 74 we stole land from GC by force and pre 74 you stole TC legal constitutional rights by force. The TC community had no legitimate legal right to seize by force the land it did in 74 just as the GC community had no legitimate legal right to remove by force the constitutional rights granted to the TC community under the 60's agreements. Both were and are wrong.

I know and it is understood what you are saying.

Trying to make further clarifications doesn't change how inept you are in formulating your opinion.

It actually reinforces even more how redonkeylous you are.

[erolz66]

I know and it is understood what you are saying.

It did not seem that you understood what I was saying when you said

While trying to present an apartheid enforced by Turkey as the TC's legitimate community rights in Cyprus?

I made no claim at all that the TC had a legal right to divide Cyprus by force in 74. Hence my clarification as to what I was actually saying.

[Maximus]

You are saying that the GC's stole the TC's rights to an apartheid before the invasion and occupation....and the GC's were wrong.

This is just redonkeylous, false virtue signalling.