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[Maximus]

congratulations.

Sounds like an excellent time.

[MR-from-NG]

Hello Erolz,

How you been? alright?

I am most excellent right now, thanks for asking. Just returned from 6 weeks in New Zealand where I got married to my kiwi partner of the last 25 years. Most excellent.

Congratulations Erol. NZ, a place I'd like to visit one day.

[MR-from-NG]

For Max to ask me to ask myself why we are hated is like Hitler in the dock in the Hague asking the court to ask the Jews why they were gassed. Or another example, white man accused of racism in court telling the judge. Ask the fucking nigger why he deserves to be discriminated against. Crazy.

no its not, its like Nelson Mandela asking you why you are ignoring your apartheid and racist ways towards the GC's.

You also ignore all the property that should be returned, bringing yourselves up to democratic first world standards and the mosque not trying to usurp GC property on top of it all.

Kiks is right about that racist flag on the mountain.

this is to mention just a few things but we also have the TC's trying to gift other bits of Cyprus and her EEZ to Turkey. I can go on if I thought about it.

"You" are blind to your own rogue behavior, intolerance and hatred.

Whatever, the education system, the church and people teach their kids about the history of Cyprus might be true. To be honest, Turks are not held in much esteem anywhere outside of Pakistan. They are responsible for their actions and behaviour and this is directly correlated to how others perceive them. if the TC follow suit and do the same, then you will get their flees as well. You own that.

Max, with all due respect, I can see this escalating to the point of going back to 1571 so it's best I stop posting. One thing though. What has Pakistan being the only nation to like Turkey got to do with me?

[repulsewarrior]

...and you can count on those who think the world is free for them to plunder, will resist; this is natural.

What is important to remember is that "we" are individuals, it as as persons where we may find comfort, but acts are done by you, whether it is "you" that you're doing it for or not. That is the Problem; it has no "Greek" or "Turk" in its solution, nor should it, we are Human beings (and not just Persons).

Having my Faith in Love as an infinite power, i/I do not despair, i serve willingly. Cyprus will be Free, because this too is natural. Having made my choice i do not regret "being" a Cypriot, not "Greek", not "Turkish", although it is difficult not feeling welcome by Greeks and Turks who have bought into the mythical reality that "their" side is completely right in any case.

We need good intentions. If "we" are to resist "them", let's make it clear, in Cyprus; it is not about Greeks against Turks, it is not even about "Greeks" against "Turks", it is about Greeks/Turks against "Greeks"/"Turks".

RW, you lived in a mixed village and only have good things to say about your TC neighbours. You are not the problem, the problem is those kids that go through your education system and those that listen to conman priests.

...the Problem is that Greeks allow "Greeks" to represent them, because they are against "Turks". The Problem is that Turks do the same thing to Greeks, with "Turks". The Problem is that Greeks and Turks must recognise that their adversary in this Problem are not each other, but the hateful enterprise as it exists of those "others".

...just ''be'' Cypriot, and realise that ''Greeks'' and ''Turks'' are the same; and that "they" are not Cypriot.

...we must stop labeling each other; "This" must stop.

...it has nothing to do with schools, it is a cheap excuse, or priests; it is up to you (and every one of us, accordingly).

...i have good things to say about my neighbours because i recognise that these neighbours deserve this esteem. There are neighbours, "Greek" and "Turkish" too, but why dwell on them? Who "wins" if i do that?

...and yes, a President that refuses to stand beside the Flag of Cyprus is just plain wrong to me, (especially if they are calling for Constitutional reform as well,) just like the flags on the mountain; it is from ignorance such as it is.

[MR-from-NG]

...and you can count on those who think the world is free for them to plunder, will resist; this is natural.

What is important to remember is that "we" are individuals, it as as persons where we may find comfort, but acts are done by you, whether it is "you" that you're doing it for or not. That is the Problem; it has no "Greek" or "Turk" in its solution, nor should it, we are Human beings (and not just Persons).

Having my Faith in Love as an infinite power, i/I do not despair, i serve willingly. Cyprus will be Free, because this too is natural. Having made my choice i do not regret "being" a Cypriot, not "Greek", not "Turkish", although it is difficult not feeling welcome by Greeks and Turks who have bought into the mythical reality that "their" side is completely right in any case.

We need good intentions. If "we" are to resist "them", let's make it clear, in Cyprus; it is not about Greeks against Turks, it is not even about "Greeks" against "Turks", it is about Greeks/Turks against "Greeks"/"Turks".

RW, you lived in a mixed village and only have good things to say about your TC neighbours. You are not the problem, the problem is those kids that go through your education system and those that listen to conman priests.

...the Problem is that Greeks allow "Greeks" to represent them, because they are against "Turks". The Problem is that Turks do the same thing to Greeks, with "Turks". The Problem is that Greeks and Turks must recognise that their adversary in this Problem are not each other, but the hateful enterprise as it exists of those "others".

...just ''be'' Cypriot, and realise that ''Greeks'' and ''Turks'' are the same; and that "they" are not Cypriot.

...we must stop labeling each other; "This" must stop.

...it has nothing to do with schools, it is a cheap excuse, or priests; it is up to you (and every one of us, accordingly).

...i have good things to say about my neighbours because i recognise that these neighbours deserve this esteem. There are neighbours, "Greek" and "Turkish" too, but why dwell on them? Who "wins" if i do that?

...and yes, a President that refuses to stand beside the Flag of Cyprus is just plain wrong to me, (especially if they are calling for Constitutional reform as well,) just like the flags on the mountain; it is from ignorance such as it is.

You make a point but I cannot agree with you regarding your schools and priests. You go to school and you are taught 2 plus two is 4 and 2 times two is 4. This is absolute fact and can never be questioned. If the next teacher repeatedly tells me Turks are evil, Turks are barbarians, murderers then that is fact for me, an undeniable fact.

I heard a story when the borders first opened. It is rumoured that a TC with good command of the Greek language saw a little kid pulling at her mothers dress and saying mum, mum, they are just like us, they don't look evil like you've been telling me. They look like us mum and I'm not scared one bit. I wasn't there but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it was indeed true.

[Maximus]

For Max to ask me to ask myself why we are hated is like Hitler in the dock in the Hague asking the court to ask the Jews why they were gassed. Or another example, white man accused of racism in court telling the judge. Ask the fucking nigger why he deserves to be discriminated against. Crazy.

no its not, its like Nelson Mandela asking you why you are ignoring your apartheid and racist ways towards the GC's.

You also ignore all the property that should be returned, bringing yourselves up to democratic first world standards and the mosque not trying to usurp GC property on top of it all.

Kiks is right about that racist flag on the mountain.

this is to mention just a few things but we also have the TC's trying to gift other bits of Cyprus and her EEZ to Turkey. I can go on if I thought about it.

"You" are blind to your own rogue behavior, intolerance and hatred.

Whatever, the education system, the church and people teach their kids about the history of Cyprus might be true. To be honest, Turks are not held in much esteem anywhere outside of Pakistan. They are responsible for their actions and behaviour and this is directly correlated to how others perceive them. if the TC follow suit and do the same, then you will get their flees as well. You own that.

Max, with all due respect, I can see this escalating to the point of going back to 1571 so it's best I stop posting. One thing though. What has Pakistan being the only nation to like Turkey got to do with me?

No Mr,

My point was, that I presumed from your original post that the TC dinndu nuffin to the GC's.

And basically, I was correct. You dont think the TC have to do much to rectify any wrong doing.

[Maximus]

I heard a story when the borders first opened. It is rumoured that a TC with good command of the Greek language saw a little kid pulling at her mothers dress and saying mum, mum, they are just like us, they don't look evil like you've been telling me. They look like us mum and I'm not scared one bit. I wasn't there but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it was indeed true.

This is just made up BS,

You just made this up.

[MR-from-NG]

For Max to ask me to ask myself why we are hated is like Hitler in the dock in the Hague asking the court to ask the Jews why they were gassed. Or another example, white man accused of racism in court telling the judge. Ask the fucking nigger why he deserves to be discriminated against. Crazy.

no its not, its like Nelson Mandela asking you why you are ignoring your apartheid and racist ways towards the GC's.

You also ignore all the property that should be returned, bringing yourselves up to democratic first world standards and the mosque not trying to usurp GC property on top of it all.

Kiks is right about that racist flag on the mountain.

this is to mention just a few things but we also have the TC's trying to gift other bits of Cyprus and her EEZ to Turkey. I can go on if I thought about it.

"You" are blind to your own rogue behavior, intolerance and hatred.

Whatever, the education system, the church and people teach their kids about the history of Cyprus might be true. To be honest, Turks are not held in much esteem anywhere outside of Pakistan. They are responsible for their actions and behaviour and this is directly correlated to how others perceive them. if the TC follow suit and do the same, then you will get their flees as well. You own that.

Max, with all due respect, I can see this escalating to the point of going back to 1571 so it's best I stop posting. One thing though. What has Pakistan being the only nation to like Turkey got to do with me?

No Mr,

My point was, that I presumed from your original post that the TC dinndu nuffin to the GC's.

And basically, I was correct. You dont think they did anything to invite it and you think they dont have to do much to rectify any wrong doing.

For fucks sake Max, it takes two to tango. I've said it so many times, TC's are not angels. Ok, tell me what the TC's do to "invite it"? Explain what we did to invite what.

[MR-from-NG]

I heard a story when the borders first opened. It is rumoured that a TC with good command of the Greek language saw a little kid pulling at her mothers dress and saying mum, mum, they are just like us, they don't look evil like you've been telling me. They look like us mum and I'm not scared one bit. I wasn't there but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it was indeed true.

This is just made up BS,

You just made this up.

With all due respect Max, fuck off will you? Why the fuck would I make shit like this up? I said I wasn't there it is a story doing its rounds and I heard it. Stop being a prick.

[Maximus]

You are even dafter than I thought.