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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby Lordo » Sun Oct 06, 2024 7:05 pm

I like the way the reporter claims Turkey fucked Cyprus up. I got news for her. Cyprus was fucked up by Makarios back in 1960 when after the elections he ignored them and gave Akel only 5 seats instead of 13 which the percentage vote they got demanded.

Lets move on to 1974. Greece has had a fascist dictatorship for 7 years. They organise a coup in Cyprus and remove the elected President Makarios and put in his place a known child murdering EOKA man. Take it from here. What should Turkey have done? Please explain I am all ears.
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby Lordo » Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:28 pm

Very interesting.

AKEL organized a conference on the theme "50 Years of Cyprus, Zero Time". Memet Ali Talat, a politician and former leader of the Turkish Cypriot community and CTP, was also invited to the conference.
In his intervention, Talat was particularly revealing in terms of Turkey's contemporary positions and in terms of our own responsibilities for the Cyprus non-resolution.
Turkey said it always wanted a two-state solution, but there were times it accepted to change attitude and support a federation solution. These periods were 2004 and 2017. Today Turkey does not support a federation solution.
He was particularly sultry for AKEL's stance when he led the Turkish-Cyprusians with their large majority supporting the solution case. In 2004, you said no to the solution, he said, while when he was persistently asking for the signing of a document with the convergence on which the two leaders agreed, in the presence of the UN General Assembly, Dimitris, Talat said, preferred to talk for 1 hour with Karojian than to resolve the Cyprus issue.
After the 28th minute Talat's intervention.


https://www.youtube.com/live/u9T1S-6g2is?t=2013s
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby Lordo » Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:52 am

Interesting report by Sevgul Uludag. According to Dr Christina Valanidu the essence of education in Cyprus has not changed in 200 years. I wonder if any other country can make such a claim.
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:12 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:just love this guy...

https://politis.com.cy/apopseis/832963/famagusta


GC have a equivalent. Makarios Drousiotis. But we have 3 other people like him. Sevgul Uludag and Niyazi Kizilyurek and Ibrahim Aziz too. Although I don't think Ibrahim Aziz has writes down that much but he is at the centre of politics of Cyprus. He took over the work Kavazoglu was doing after he was murdered in 1965 and also had an order against him by the TMT, shoot on sight.
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:46 am

Three in five people in the north want a solution to the Cyprus problem, a survey conducted by the migration, identity and rights studies centre (CMIRS) in September found.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/10/15/majo ... -solution/


...after fifty years the numbers have not changed much.

perhaps a better article on the subject:
https://www.kibrispostasi.com/c140-DAIL ... ll-reveals
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:51 am

...by the way, our so called leaders met with Mr. Guterres; not much as a result.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/10/16/gree ... -meetings/

...there will be a meeting to include the three guarantors next, it is said.

...both leaders agree to meet again soon.
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby Lordo » Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:58 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...by the way, our so called leaders met with Mr. Guterres; not much as a result.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2024/10/16/gree ... -meetings/

...there will be a meeting to include the three guarantors next, it is said.

...both leaders agree to meet again soon.

Tatar has made his intentions clear. Quite what they are going to discuss is not very clear.

“If our sovereign equality and equal international status are not confirmed, we will not sit down to continue official negotiations,” he said.
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:59 pm

...Guterres has suggested a confederation for discussion.

...i still consider a Greek Constituency, equal to a Turkish Constituency in a Cypriot Federation the best way to secure for 'us' Freedom, Liberty, and security from "Them".
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Re: The war against Cyprus.

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:01 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...Guterres has suggested a confederation for discussion.

...i still consider a Greek Constituency, equal to a Turkish Constituency in a Cypriot Federation the best way to secure for 'us' Freedom, Liberty, and security from "Them".

Was there any comments from either side regarding this suggestion?
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