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[repulsewarrior]

...not "Greeks", not "Turks"; Cypriots indeed are not few.

[Lordo]

Actually the problem is not all that complicated. If Russia did not object to peace in Cyprus, trying to put a wedge between two Nato countries, it would have been solved back in 1978 when there was hardly and settlers in in the North. It could have been even solved back in 1974 with everybody returning to their homes but Makarios and no doubt with the backing of Russia vetoed it.

Unfortunately the MSN constantly muddies the water to make it seem more complicated. But it really is not. Even today, it could have been solved back in 2017 but it was not for the same reason.

Read Drousiotis' book about Crans-Montana and you will get first hand information as to what went on in the background, The ultimate culprit was the current Nikos Christodoulides and his wife Philippa Karsera and Kotzia with the helping hand of Lavrov which caused the collapse of the talks.

Admittedly the peace would be in the American terms but never the less it would be peace.

[repulsewarrior]

...hope.

warning: it is a hard video to watch if you are Cypriot.

[repulsewarrior]

...a very British story.



...''information was needed, torture was used.''

...''they poured fire into the cave and set fire to it.''

...yet that was not enough, ''they'' suggest (to the "Turks"), ''partition or death".

...7 June, 1958; that was it, ending any reasonable dialog, only hate (based on a lie).

...it was Makarios who got them out of the nightmare of their own making; Independence he proposes.

...Grivas is opposed, murderously.

...yet Zorlu agrees. And Makarios was left to think, finally consenting.

(...Grivas vowing his return.)

[repulsewarrior]

...well balanced, in that way easy to watch.

[repulsewarrior]

https://neoskosmos.com/en/2023/12/01/fe ... d-in-1974/

It is a good read (if you can stomach it).

...and Kissinger never had a regret it seems, being "American" till the end; a day or two ago dying.

[Lordo]

This is the Swine at their best.

31 July 2004

CYPRUS, THE UN AND THE TURKISH GENERALS

Exactly 50 years ago this July there was a classic row in the House of Commons just before the summer recess. Henry Hopkinson, a long forgotten conservative colonial secretary, used the "n" word from the dispatch box. In an astonishingly prescient statement about the future of Cyprus, he said that there were some countries which could never expect to be fully independent.

The sentence had all the fingerprints of the security services on it, both British and American; under the post-war settlement, the US regarded the military bases and the information from the listening stations on the island quite as much as theirs as ours. As a result Cyprus attained only qualified independence, an independence further restricted when Kofi Annan, earlier this year, accepted a Turkish demand that its troops, like those of the British, should retain to right to stay in Cyprus in perpetuity.

Hopkinson's statement was followed by (and plausibly actually generated) a chain of events:
- A war of independence
- British military bases
- A phoney constitution
- An invasion by the Turks
- And a divided island with an unrecognised mini-state in the north.

You will not find a better Swinery anywhere in the world.

And yet the best part of all this was described as Phoney Constitution. It was the only constitution that could have worked. This has since been proved correct in that Makarios and his Enosishite buddies could not be trusted to run a pub never mind a country. How the fuck did he give only 5 seats to Akel after willing 34% of the vote. Swine Democracy is what it is. Perhaps the phoney aspect was the fact the the President could dish out the seats to whom he pleased and ignore the vote of the people.

[repulsewarrior]

https://medyanews.net/turkey-plans-stra ... t-reveals/

...cleansing by stealth; another twist on illegal displacement: another twist on illegal settlement.

[repulsewarrior]

A well balanced article on Kissinger's legacy,

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... an-mistake

...one hopes that Biden remembers well, and that he has the strength to overcome the thinking that brought 'us' "Here".

[Lordo]

A well balanced article on Kissinger's legacy,

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... an-mistake

...one hopes that Biden remembers well, and that he has the strength to overcome the thinking that brought 'us' "Here".

He is part of the problem and it was deliberate.