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[Lordo]

ahsmg on a moment RW. in 2004 25% of GCs and 65% of TCs voted for peace. Stupid boy is talking out of his arse again.

The idea that after 60 years people should be able to return is laughable. Anastasiades admitted as much back when he won his first election in a meeting he had in London. Assholes like stupid boy could not believe what he said. He actually said "If this was in 1975, it may have been possible but now after all these decades it is impossible.

It is time to smell the coffee, the Cypriot coffee that is. Federal structure, equal power and fair exchange is the only way forward. So at least everybody can claim their properties and sell it at a proper rate. And if anybody wishes to live in their original property, they should have the right to do so.

[repulsewarrior]

...everyone who voted in that referendum voted for peace, let's be clear. It failed because the "peace" which was offered remained unclear (parts of which as Annan5 were not even read).

...Cypriots are the ones unhappy being divided; as voters they represent never less than half the population (Turkish or Greek), over decades. "Greeks" and "Turks" on the other hand want to settle things the way they are.

Think about what you are doing Lordo, suggesting such a narrative only favours "Them". 'We' are neither.

...people will return, likely few compared to those forced to leave. Any solution should first recognise and respect the displaced (from '63 and '74) who other than their dead suffered the most injustice.

..."Greekness" and "Turkishness" should not be the center of discussions among Cypriots except when they recall that such dogmas (in their excess) are harmful to 'us', those of us who recognise values based on Universal Principles and basic Human Rights.

Indeed, a BBF like the USA or Canada for example, works. Intentions count.

[repulsewarrior]

https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/news/lo ... -air-base/

...it's too bad that a man like Akinci was labelled a traitor for lamenting about the brutality of war. It's just horrible that such a man as Tatar willfully agrees with Erdogan, that war is normal and peace is not.

[Lordo]

...everyone who voted in that referendum voted for peace, let's be clear. It failed because the "peace" which was offered remained unclear (parts of which as Annan5 were not even read).

...Cypriots are the ones unhappy being divided; as voters they represent never less than half the population (Turkish or Greek), over decades. "Greeks" and "Turks" on the other hand want to settle things the way they are.

Think about what you are doing Lordo, suggesting such a narrative only favours "Them". 'We' are neither.

...people will return, likely few compared to those forced to leave. Any solution should first recognise and respect the displaced (from '63 and '74) who other than their dead suffered the most injustice.

..."Greekness" and "Turkishness" should not be the center of discussions among Cypriots except when they recall that such dogmas (in their excess) are harmful to 'us', those of us who recognise values based on Universal Principles and basic Human Rights.

Indeed, a BBF like the USA or Canada for example, works. Intentions count.

No RW. GCs voting no to Annan plan was not a vote for peace, quite the opposite. It was agreed by both sides that if there were any gaps in the agreement the UN would fill them in. Papadopoullos was offered Karpasia peninsula for land exchange and he refused it to make the agreement less palatable. He appeared on TV for 2 hours crying asking GCs to vote no for an agreement he negotiated. You cannot make it up.

It is time to stop living in denial

[Lordo]

https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/news/local/lefkonico-airport-in-breakaway-northern-cyprus-becomes-turkeys-military-air-base/

...it's too bad that a man like Akinci was labelled a traitor for lamenting about the brutality of war. It's just horrible that such a man as Tatar willfully agrees with Erdogan, that war is normal and peace is not.

The Lefkoniko airport was always used by the military and not just by Turkey, it has also been used by Nato forces particularly America.
I remember landing there one year when Ercan was closed for expansion.

[repulsewarrior]

https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/news/local/lefkonico-airport-in-breakaway-northern-cyprus-becomes-turkeys-military-air-base/

...it's too bad that a man like Akinci was labelled a traitor for lamenting about the brutality of war. It's just horrible that such a man as Tatar willfully agrees with Erdogan, that war is normal and peace is not.

The Lefkoniko airport was always used by the military and not just by Turkey, it has also been used by Nato forces particularly America.
I remember landing there one year when Ercan was closed for expansion.

...yet now it is a Turkish Military Base; there is a difference. Indeed, Cyprus is an unsinkable aircraft carrier.

(And who remembers the Piri Reis, talking about submarines)

[repulsewarrior]

https://declassifieduk.org/revealed-bri ... m=referral

...for the record.

...there are also records i saw reported a few days ago on Americans at Akrotiri today; more than they claim to be.

[repulsewarrior]

...let's remember that beside the "Greeks" and "Turks", people like these, call them Cypriots, exist.

https://cyprus-mail.com/2023/02/10/gree ... e-mission/

[repulsewarrior]

...Mr. Tatar and Christodoulides meet.

[repulsewarrior]

Lordo, can you get us stuff from Tatar?

(...in effect he says it's up to us to solve our problem. The EU and other parties cannot solve it, but toward a solution they are following)

(...there were no disappointments in meeting Tatar; as it should be in an introductory meeting.)