This is a joke, your each more brainwashed than each other yet think you can engage in civilised debate stop illuding yourselves.
I think you all need to read the book
"The Voice of Blood" - Antonis Angastiniyotis
In it he says
Greek Cypriot author, Antonis Angastiniyotis, who questioned Greek Cypriot nationalism in his written works and in his documentary "The Voice of Blood" drew attention to the mass massacres carried out by the Greek Cypriots against the Turkish Cypriots, dedicated his new article entitled, "Barbarism Against the Turkish Cypriots…The other side of the coin", to the Turkish Cypriot schoolchildren who were brutally massacred in Murataga in 1974 and brought to light the Greek Cypriot brutality.
In his article Angastiniyotis said:
"I'm constantly asked why I'm opening old wounds and not letting the past to be forgotten. The answer is very simple. The wounds are not old, otherwise there wouldn't be mothers dressed in black, weapons, soldiers and borders. Although I've lived on this island for 40-years, I only began to explore the other half of the realities last year and what I discovered bore a deep wound in my soul.
When I got over the propaganda wall and realized that people were knowingly hiding the other half of the reality or they were distorting the reality, the past now becomes a frightening 'present'. If you want to find more than one reality, you need to constantly dig the soil until your hands are bloody. If you talk, they say you are a traitor, threaten your life, and most of your friends turn their backs on you. You can be totally alone.
Loneliness no longer frightens me. For a long time now, at nights a group of children from Murataga come to my bed and together we read short stories. They smile happily at me because I have told their stories to the world, whereas I am engulfed in tears because of not being able to count the number of bullet wounds in their small bodies before they leave. The wounds cannot be old because when I wake up I find blood stains on my white sheets. The wounds cannot be old because up until now no one has apologized.
The animosity between the Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots is not new. It didn't start in 1974, or in 1963, nor when the Byzantium Empire collapsed. It started much earlier; it started during the Cain and Abel period. The start of the animosity is in the hearts of the people and as long as it remains there, we will seek the opportunity to bury Cain's dead body or take revenge from Abel.
The purpose of writing this book is social, not political. However, it is not possible to avoid the political aspects of the events. The main aim is to address every Cypriot, especially the Greek Cypriots. Because I also learned to look at the political situation of Cyprus from this point of view.
Both the domestic tension created by the 24 April 2004 referendum with the aim of reunifying the island (Annan Plan) and my daily contacts with the world, takes me to only one conclusion. Extreme nationalism that is deeply rooted in peoples' hearts is the biggest obstacle for people to reconcile. For the situation to change permission must be given to explain the realities regarding the dark corners of history. It's not possible for people to clean their souls without regretting what they've done and it's not possible for them to regret what they've done without acknowledging their faults.
The majority of the Greek Cypriot youth know very little about the events that led to the island's division. The tragic events of 1974 have been used as a huge curtain to cover up the real events that led to the division of the two people. In our schools it has always surprised me that while talking about the heroism of EOKA, they skip 15-years and continue with 1974. Either nothing happened between 1960 and 1974, or no one wants to discuss this. While researching the events during this period (1960-74), I realized that the second choice was right.
When I started to write this research, my cousin from Greece and her two daughters came to visit me and we started to discuss the events of 1963-74. The daughters knew nothing and what their mother knew was very confusing. At one stage of the discussion I mentioned some of the Greek Cypriot leadership's mistakes and all of a sudden this brought out the nationalist monster in my cousin who said: "Makarios' biggest mistake was not to have killed all the Turkish Cypriots in order for us to be comfortable".
This sweet and pretty woman, who couldn't even kill an ant, had suddenly turned into a killer who could carry out mass murders. She wanted a whole race to be wiped out. This is what I said to her: "In other words, do you mean taking out all the children from school, all mothers with their babies and all the men from their work places and taking them to a big hole in Messaria and murder them…Do you want to be one of the murders or the one of the persons using the bulldozer to cover the mass graves…"
There was silence. The example I gave helped her to understand the meaning of what she said. Then I started to speak again. "We tried this before in Ayvasil, Murataga, Atlilar, Taskent, but the only thing we succeeded in was soughing the fruits of our efforts".
Since our childhood we were taught that the Turks were barbaric dogs. My aunt used to say to me that they smelled because they weren't baptised. Whereas according to the Bible, we are modern Christians who love their environment. Then, why did our religious leader Makarios in 1964 say that 'If Turkey comes to intervene to protect the Turkish Cypriots, she will not find a single Turkish Cypriot to save…' The answer is clear. In Cyprus there is a saying, 'another priest's sermon'. In certain situations this enables us to hate. This book will deal with some of these special situations.
While there are those who claim that 'the Cyprus problem started in 1974 and the problem is an issue of invasion and can be settled if the invading forces withdrew from the island', the Turkish Cypriots know well what they would be faced with if Turkish troops left the island. Because the bitter pain of the 11-years before the arrival of the Turkish troops has not been erased from their memories. The EU should to Papadopoulos, 'the Turkish troops brought peace to Cyprus, they are the protectors of peace because as you arm yourself to take over the whole of Cyprus under the usurped title of the Cyprus Government, the Turkish Cypriots have the right to be protected and to protect their state against you'.
Those who peace, unification and reconciliation should see the realities and act realistically. The realities in Cyprus have been ignored for 40-years. These realities are the existence of two equal peoples in Cyprus with the right to self-determination and that neither one of these sides can dominate or represent the other and does not have the right to be the sole government of the whole of Cyprus…"
'Let's tell the truth so we can apologize'
http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?S ... 2258-7304r
WoW, I really respect this man at least he has the guts to tell it how it is and get rid of the brainwashing he suffered when he was young.
Piratis
This was a great christian cathedral built in the 13th century. The barbarian Ottomans bombarded it and destroyed most part of it. Later on they added a minaret and it was turned into a mosque.
Are you this brainwashed.
That was a Catholic Cathedral and it was Ventitian and had nothing to do with you, you were Orthodox, to Catholics you were Heretics and were wrong, the Greeks actually hated them so much they helped the Turks defeat them and get rid of them from the Island, its so Ironic that those Greeks felt the Turkish forces actually liberated the Island.
Pirates
This story describes very well our friend Lala_Mustafa_Pasha. Just another barbarian that supports the usual Turkish tactics of killing, raping destroying and stealing what others have created.
Aha this co-incides with the main article
Since our childhood we were taught that the Turks were barbaric dogs. My aunt used to say to me that they smelled because they weren't baptised.
Piratis, you are the kind of Looser Mr Angastiniyotis is describing, wake up.
Piratis
Multiply that by about 100 to understand what we have suffered under the Turks.
You need help man, 15 years of suffering Ethnic Cleansing 15 YEARS innocent people were killed, attacked and abused by EOKA Terrorists and at that time there was no war, the ONLY agressor was the Greek Junta.
When the Turkish Millitary came for legal liberation it was a WAR get it a WAR I know its hard for you to get your head around this but when there is a war two opposing sides with arms battle hence there are human casualties, is it nice no of course not and if you have a problem please question your EOKA Terrorists Greek Junta as there the ones who wanted the war sorry to be the one to have to break it to you.
Comparing people who died in war to innocent Turkish Cypriots massacred in peace time by Greek armed forces is ridiculous and actually quite disturbing
Piratis
It is time to end the dictatorship of the army in Turkey and finally turn turkey into a democratic country that would respect the rights of its own citizens and of its neighbors. As long as this dictatorship continues, more and more brainwashed people like Lala will appear and this will not help Turkey to become anything more than a third world country than it is today.
Dictatorship? where? haha, the only dicatatorship was when the Greek Junta was on the Island.
The Turkish Millitary has a lovely position on the island, if you took time to look you'd discover actually were a Democracy, we elect our leaders and the Millitary dont get involved.
With the Millitary here any cowardly Greek Junta forces no they can't even dare show their face on the border cos their simply no match to our brave forces, your only strong when faced against Innocent villagers
I cant wait to do my Millitary Service, I'll go to BesParmaklik and go to the top of the Mountain and shout TURKISH CYPRUS LIVES WHOS GONNA STOP US, just so you can here MrPiratis
Also if you took a look at the news you would also realise slowly but surely one nation after another is removing its ambargos and walking towards recognition.
Brazil Backs Removal of Sanctions on TRNC
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=hotnews&alt=&t ... 0&hn=28832
Brazil Lends Shoulder to Turkey for Cyprus and UN
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&hn=28899
Piratis, we suffered 15 years of EOKA Terrorism, we weathered the storm of ambargos and international isolation for over 20 years haha, its only made us stronger and toughened us up and increased our anger towards injustice you make us suffer.
But as you can see, the konger we hold out the better it becomes, Azerbaycan, Kirgizistan both our Turk brothers, now Brazil, Arab Gulf States, Pakistan also England and America I mean wake up, soon the world;s gonna accept, recognise and lift economic embargo's of NORTH KIBRIS.
Ah good things come to those who wait, its all gonna be worth it very, very soon hehe it already is, I'm off to get my Brazil shirt and support them in this World Cup, bye
BgTurk, maybe also they'll start paying us compensation for rounding us off into small enclaves, burning our villages and killing our people for 15 years, I mean fair is fair if they have grievences they have to realise our grievences are theres Multiplied by 100.
P.s, it writes your in Bulgaria? are you there? my Uncle has been he said there were loads of Turks there lol, jeeez were everywhere.
