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[erolz66]

You are boring, you've just repeated the same thing over and over...

Says the forum hypocrite

Cheap imported labour suppresses wages and stifles innovation. Simples.

It can not suppress wages below minimum wage what because that is what minimum wage means. Plonker. When you stop 'imported cheap labour' you stop amongst them the job creators, the wealth creators, the innovators, like my father, like Priti Patel's parents, like Marks of M&S and 10,000s of other examples. It is amongst this 'cheap imported labour' that such people come from and in a proportion higher than amongst the native population. This is proven fact but your dogma means you just ignore all of this and invent bullshit to suit.

[erolz66]

The forum hypocrite has declared that low wages suppress innovation. So lets jack minimum wage up to £100 per hour and make the UK the most innovative country in the world.

[cyprusgrump]

You are boring, you've just repeated the same thing over and over...

Says the forum hypocrite

Cheap imported labour suppresses wages and stifles innovation. Simples.

It can not suppress wages below minimum wage what because that is what minimum wage means. Plonker. When you stop 'imported cheap labour' you stop amongst them the job creators, the wealth creators, the innovators, like my father, like Priti Patel's parents, like Marks of M&S and 10,000s of other examples. It is amongst this 'cheap imported labour' that such people come from and in a proportion higher than amongst the native population. This is proven fact but your dogma means you just ignore all of this and invent bullshit to suit.

You and your ridiculous Straw Man arguments have become the forum joke...

In fact, we should call you ErLOLZ from now on!

[cyprusgrump]

CG, you are not answering the question. If the UK will only allow skilled workers into the country who will meet the 70 point level, who will do most of the low skilled work whom will not qualify to meet the 70 point entry level? Automation is not the answer in the areas of work we are talking about. If you have a shortage in Labour, then the cost of hiring will rise to the employer, which will then be passed on to the consumer.

Fuck me, are you retarded or what?

You've ignored everything I have posted and repeated your original argument again!

I've specifically answered the point you made about McDonald's...

Yes, you are correct, if you reduce the supply of cheap labour then wages will rise as employers will have to compete for labour instead of picking it at will from an endless pool.

And yes, the labour will have to be paid for and the costs passed to the consumer.

But also, employers will innovate to reduce their labour costs and remain competitive.

They have already replaced the 'do you want fries with that?' person, do you think they can't make a burger flipping machine?

They can and they will, believe me. I was working on 'lights out' fully automated factories before I came to Cyprus nearly 20 years ago. A burger making machine is simple by comparison.

And farmers will invest in automated picking machines to keep their labour costs down as another example...

[Kikapu]

CG, you are not answering the question. If the UK will only allow skilled workers into the country who will meet the 70 point level, who will do most of the low skilled work whom will not qualify to meet the 70 point entry level? Automation is not the answer in the areas of work we are talking about. If you have a shortage in Labour, then the cost of hiring will rise to the employer, which will then be passed on to the consumer.

Fuck me, are you retarded or what?

You've ignored everything I have posted and repeated your original argument again!

I've specifically answered the point you made about McDonald's...

Yes, you are correct, if you reduce the supply of cheap labour then wages will rise as employers will have to compete for labour instead of picking it at will from an endless pool.

And yes, the labour will have to be paid for and the costs passed to the consumer.

But also, employers will innovate to reduce their labour costs and remain competitive.

They have already replaced the 'do you want fries with that?' person, do you think they can't make a burger flipping machine?

They can and they will, believe me. I was working on 'lights out' fully automated factories before I came to Cyprus nearly 20 years ago. A burger making machine is simple by comparison.

And farmers will invest in automated picking machines to keep their labour costs down as another example...

You are stuck on the £20 burgers!

Fuck the burgers.

Who will you allow to come and work low skilled work in the UK if they do not meet the 70 point as skilled workers?

Let me get you out of your misery by answering the question for you.

There will not be any change from what we have today as far as low skill workers coming from EU countries now, mainly from Poland, Bulgaria and Romania. Yes, they won't be able to walk in as they can now. They will be brought in by "stealth" by "padding" their qualifications to meet the 70 points to enter. This is to fool all the Neo Brexiteers in their thinking that they have stopped immigration and that they now have control of their borders from these undesirable people from above mentioned countries, because no one in the UK wants to pay £20 for a burger no matter how anti immigrants they may be. Chances are, you will import more immigrants from Asia and Africa instead of from EU countries. The difference will be only change of skin colour and nothing else.

[cyprusgrump]

You are stuck on the £20 burgers!

Fuck the burgers.

You started the discussion on McDonald's and then repeatedly accused me of avoiding the question...

This is to fool all the Neo Brexiteers in their thinking that they have stopped immigration and that they now have control of their borders from these undesirable people from above mentioned countries, because no one in the UK wants to pay £20 for a burger no matter how anti immigrants they may be. Chances are, you will import more immigrants from Asia and Africa instead of from EU countries. The difference will be only change of skin colour and nothing else.

And then you start on about fucking burgers again... You are retarded aren't you...?

[Kikapu]

You are stuck on the £20 burgers!

Fuck the burgers.

You started the discussion on McDonald's and then repeatedly accused me of avoiding the question...

This is to fool all the Neo Brexiteers in their thinking that they have stopped immigration and that they now have control of their borders from these undesirable people from above mentioned countries, because no one in the UK wants to pay £20 for a burger no matter how anti immigrants they may be. Chances are, you will import more immigrants from Asia and Africa instead of from EU countries. The difference will be only change of skin colour and nothing else.

And then you start on about fucking burgers again... You are retarded aren't you...?

Don’t panic, because the UK will never allow burgers to cost £20. They will import cheap Labour so you can still have your burgers for much less.

[miltiades]

Another ....trade deal about to be signed following of the footsteps of Somalia, Sudan and Ethiopia. Now we can rejoice at our new trading partner. The Republic of Congo!! Boy who needs the EU

[cyprusgrump]

You are stuck on the £20 burgers!

Fuck the burgers.

You started the discussion on McDonald's and then repeatedly accused me of avoiding the question...

This is to fool all the Neo Brexiteers in their thinking that they have stopped immigration and that they now have control of their borders from these undesirable people from above mentioned countries, because no one in the UK wants to pay £20 for a burger no matter how anti immigrants they may be. Chances are, you will import more immigrants from Asia and Africa instead of from EU countries. The difference will be only change of skin colour and nothing else.

And then you start on about fucking burgers again... You are retarded aren't you...?

Don’t panic, because the UK will never allow burgers to cost £20. They will import cheap Labour so you can still have your burgers for much less.

Retard...

[cyprusgrump]

Another ....trade deal about to be signed following of the footsteps of Somalia, Sudan and Ethiopia. Now we can rejoice at our new trading partner. The Republic of Congo!! Boy who needs the EU

Another retard...