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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:22 am

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miltiades wrote:Currencies have been and always will be the barometer of a nations economic prospects. Its a fact.


You couldn't get anymore stupid!

If that is indeed the case, Cyprus should have been the best economy in the world when it had the Pound which was one of the dearest currencies in the world.

That was not the case. USA, Australia, Germany, NZ, Canada and I could name dozens more, had stronger economies, higher GDP, and more trade.

Currencies ARE NOT A BAROMETER.

Australia's AUD is currently sliding but it's GDP still growing. Maybe for not too much longer but its growing. When it goes into negative territory, it won't ever be as bad as the EU which was already in negative territory before Coronavirus.

The barometers are:

1) GDP growth
2) current account deficit/surplus
3) Job market growth
4) unemployment rate

All the things you choose to ignore because the figures don't suit your agenda.

If you took the above things into consideration, then you couldn't slander BREXIT.

All the factors you stated are relevant to a nations currency . The analogy you offered for Cyprus is laughable !!
The UK was the world's 5th largest economy but that was before Brexit. A week currency will inevitably increase the cost of our imports, and we import more than we export, therefore prices will increase especially our food imports.


No it isn't laughable at all.

And to top it all off, there are third world countries and other developing countries with Pesos and yet they are growing up to 8%. Ergo, a healthy and expanding economy.

And no, currency has absolutely zero to do with the economy and many countries like China, Japan and Australia regularly devalue it to make their products more competitive on the international stage.

And you as always are only looking at one side of the equation. Yes it well make imports more expensive. But it also makes their exports cheaper, thus offering a boon to exporters, and manufacturers which is exactly the reason WHY some countries like to devalue their currency.

For example, the USA would friggin implode if the USD was the same value as the Cyprus Pound was, so their Federal Reserve found their little happy place where imports are not too expensive and at the same time they can sell their exports overseas. It's also very helpful to the tourism and hospitality industry. Not that many people will be traveling now but normally it would be good for tourism. It also discourages Brits from holidaying overseas and instead holiday in the UK, thus assisting their local economy.

What is the catch all indicator once again, is GDP Growth, and employment and job statistics as well as wage growth and inflation. Yet you ignore all of that and only look at the value of the currency during these very uncertain times.
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby erolz66 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:04 am

Paphitis wrote:What is the catch all indicator once again, is GDP Growth, and employment and job statistics as well as wage growth and inflation. Yet you ignore all of that and only look at the value of the currency during these very uncertain times.


Most of which were in the FT report I posted a link too and showed declining performance across a range of such measures post brexit, other than for employment rate, which you just dismissed out of hand and falsely claimed were worse in EU member states any way etc etc. You only look at what you think supports what you want to be true and just make stuff up when it does not suit, whilst accusing others of doing just that. Pretty much a text book definition of hypocrisy imo.
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:16 am





I rest my case.

Next!
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby erolz66 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:42 am

Quarterly GDP growth has been higher in the EU and Eurozone since the last quarter of 2016. GDP growth in the Eurozone and wider EU is forecasted to be higher than in the UK in 2018 and 2019.


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source - https://fullfact.org/economy/uk-economi ... er-europe/

I rest my case that when the evidence is not as you would like it to be, you just make it up. Next.
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:58 am

Anyone that believes that the UK economy will be better off this year or indeed for years after is hallucinating. The EU will continue to thrive regardless of the UK's exit. Sterling will have a rough time as indeed is having right now.
As far as the General is concerned the strength or weekness of the pound is of no significance. The financial markets however think otherwise and they do put their money where their mouths are unlike Paphitis who makes up economic statements based on his own prejudices.
As for bucket man, well he only has a singular brain cell and sits on it 24/7. :lol:
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:03 pm

miltiades wrote:Anyone that believes that the UK economy will be better off this year or indeed for years after is hallucinating. The EU will continue to thrive regardless of the UK's exit. Sterling will have a rough time as indeed is having right now.
As far as the General is concerned the strength or weekness of the pound is of no significance. The financial markets however think otherwise and they do put their money where their mouths are unlike Paphitis who makes up economic statements based on his own prejudices.
As for bucket man, well he only has a singular brain cell and sits on it 24/7. :lol:



Another keeper that will come back to haunt you! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:06 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:Anyone that believes that the UK economy will be better off this year or indeed for years after is hallucinating. The EU will continue to thrive regardless of the UK's exit. Sterling will have a rough time as indeed is having right now.
As far as the General is concerned the strength or weekness of the pound is of no significance. The financial markets however think otherwise and they do put their money where their mouths are unlike Paphitis who makes up economic statements based on his own prejudices.
As for bucket man, well he only has a singular brain cell and sits on it 24/7. :lol:



Another keeper that will come back to haunt you! :lol: :lol: :lol:



Of course, when I say 'come back' I mean, "I'll bring it back". And when I say 'to haunt you' I mean, "to humiliate you". :lol:

Rather like your previous prognostications... :wink:
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 13, 2020 3:45 pm

For you, stupidity is a virtue.
Plonker, check the pound in your pocket, its approaching my forecast albeit 3 months late!!
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:18 pm

erolz66 wrote:
Quarterly GDP growth has been higher in the EU and Eurozone since the last quarter of 2016. GDP growth in the Eurozone and wider EU is forecasted to be higher than in the UK in 2018 and 2019.


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source - https://fullfact.org/economy/uk-economi ... er-europe/

I rest my case that when the evidence is not as you would like it to be, you just make it up. Next.


Don't worry about propaganda anti BREXIT sites. look at official sources please!

EU GDP Growth:

https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/gdp-growth

And UK GDP growth:

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/gdp-growth
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:21 pm

miltiades wrote:Anyone that believes that the UK economy will be better off this year or indeed for years after is hallucinating. The EU will continue to thrive regardless of the UK's exit. Sterling will have a rough time as indeed is having right now.
As far as the General is concerned the strength or weekness of the pound is of no significance. The financial markets however think otherwise and they do put their money where their mouths are unlike Paphitis who makes up economic statements based on his own prejudices.
As for bucket man, well he only has a singular brain cell and sits on it 24/7. :lol:


Laughable!

How is the EU going to fare with Coronaviris hitting Italy the way it has?

I bet the UK will be doing MUCH BETTER!

It was doing better even before Coronavirus. They outperformed the EU in every indicator.
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