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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:16 pm

miltiades wrote:But you said, in more than one occasion, " all my debt is tax deductible"
You didn't say Interest on my debt, you said ALL MY DEBT. Now, just leave it at that. I rest my case.


I've said the same thing to my accountant and to other people and no other person other than you would misinterpret this to mean that if you borrow $100 dollars then you can claim $100. But if borrowing $100 costs me $10 dollars per year, I can claim that $10 every year and get $5 dollars back substantially offsetting my borrowing cost. It means cheaper money for me which I can use to buy things like property when i don't have the money to buy it.

If that were the case and you can claim all your borrowings, I would just borrow the amount of tax I have to pay (multiplied by about 2) and offset my entire tax bill.

No one with a borrowing capacity need to pay ANY tax. People who earn money need not pay tax.

It is very OBVIOUS what is meant.
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:05 pm

Stop this pathetic nonsense. You said clearly ALL MY DEBT IS TAX DEDUCTIBLE.
Now shut it and stop being plonker all your life!!
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:25 pm

miltiades wrote:Stop this pathetic nonsense. You said clearly ALL MY DEBT IS TAX DEDUCTIBLE.
Now shut it and stop being plonker all your life!!


Normal MO for you CoCo, insults, insults insults but when somebody asks you a serious question you, um respond with insults... :roll:

Or of course you just ignore the questions, like those below and continue with your normal BS...

cyprusgrump wrote:
You keep on (betwixt profanity and insults :roll: ) about the eu being 'The World's Largest Trading Block', but will it be so once the fifth largest economy in the world leaves it...?

Isn't the UK equivalent to the eighteen smallest eu countries...? How much eu trade is UK trade?

How will they cope without the £350m a week the UK sends? Which part of their budget will they cut to compensate or who will pay more...? Italy perhaps...?

For extra points, see if you can answer without profanity or insults... :wink:



Perhaps you could see your way to actually answering something for once...?
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby miltiades » Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:19 pm

I try and refrain from answering questions posed by a ....fucking idiot !
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby Paphitis » Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:16 am

miltiades wrote:Stop this pathetic nonsense. You said clearly ALL MY DEBT IS TAX DEDUCTIBLE.
Now shut it and stop being plonker all your life!!


And a normal person knows EXACTLY what is meant. I have heard people say this all the time, and that includes very wealthy business people.

One of my Koumbaroi is an extremely wealthy builder/developer. he helps me with trades as well who come to my projects. And we are not talking about housing but high end building where the base model is 1.5 million and up to 3.5 million. The guy also borrows to build display homes in sell them off and it is a term we both used, as well as our accountants.

It's only clear to you because you want to be recalcitrant. This individual has lines of credit from the Bank in the order of 10 odd million. I have lines of credit of 2 million on my own which I need especially when we go in halves on a parcel.

When we build it is common for both of us to spend about a 1 million each or more.

These Lines of Credit are CRITICAL for our survival because often times we just don't actually have the cash to buy materials or even pay contractors. We can probably carry ourselves halfway, until our cash runs out but then need to rely on the Bank because materials still need to be bought and our contractors need to be paid. That is WHY Banks are extremely important because most of our money is actually tied up in land and other projects.That seems to be the common modus operandi of even the biggest corporates. Without the Banks, the whole economy would crash into a pile.

I've been doing this for years. I started my first project with my dad at the age of 20. It was just normal housing then. Corner blocks getting subdivided into 2 and 3 and build.

We only do high end high quality now. All fittings of the highest quality.

I'm happy to show you some photos via PM. I give you an example. Our joiner is the very same guy who is responsible for the 10 Downing Street Door and that is the type of quality we do.

Between myself and my Koumbaro, we employ 6 supervisors and project managers and between the 2 of us we have 15 contracts this year. Some his own, a couple my own and a couple as joint. The biggest and most lucrative we have done was build a new premises for a TV Network worth 10 million.

We have our own signature constructions. people know they are our constructions. Well they know my Koumbaro but they also know I am behind him as well.

We know what tax deductible and what's not I can assure. And we know how to structure ourselves.

The reason is, we have done stuff and lost money as well. An example, the worse one was a loss of about 300K. That was recent too.
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:46 am

miltiades wrote:I try and refrain from answering questions posed by a ....fucking idiot !
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So you can't give an answer then...? :roll:

You've basically plucked a factoid from the european commission website to bash Brexit with but can't actually back it up with any facts or statistics when questioned can you?

Instead, as normal you resort to insults and profanity.

Still, it must be tough for your remoaners watching every single one of your Brexit claims proved false and slipping away like sand through your fingers... :lol:
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby Kikapu » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:24 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:I try and refrain from answering questions posed by a ....fucking idiot !
Happy ?



So you can't give an answer then...? :roll:

You've basically plucked a factoid from the european commission website to bash Brexit with but can't actually back it up with any facts or statistics when questioned can you?

Instead, as normal you resort to insults and profanity.

Still, it must be tough for your remoaners watching every single one of your Brexit claims proved false and slipping away like sand through your fingers... :lol:

In all fairness, the “remoaners” as you call them have not been proven wrong yet, because Brexit has not happened 100% yet.
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:36 am

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:I try and refrain from answering questions posed by a ....fucking idiot !
Happy ?



So you can't give an answer then...? :roll:

You've basically plucked a factoid from the european commission website to bash Brexit with but can't actually back it up with any facts or statistics when questioned can you?

Instead, as normal you resort to insults and profanity.

Still, it must be tough for your remoaners watching every single one of your Brexit claims proved false and slipping away like sand through your fingers... :lol:

In all fairness, the “remoaners” as you call them have not been proven wrong yet, because Brexit has not happened 100% yet.



In all fairness I was just asking for the details of a point that CoCo had made repeatedly... :wink:

In return I got CoCo's normal eclectic blend of insult and profanity. :roll:

The UK doesn't have to leave 100% for us to know how its leaving will affect 'The World's Largest Trading Block'... A polite answer to a polite question shouldn't be too much to ask should it...? :?

Although I would have to point out that many of the remoaner's claims (Irish backstop, hard border, planes not flying, etc. etc.) have been proven wrong already
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby Kikapu » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:42 am

cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:I try and refrain from answering questions posed by a ....fucking idiot !
Happy ?



So you can't give an answer then...? :roll:

You've basically plucked a factoid from the european commission website to bash Brexit with but can't actually back it up with any facts or statistics when questioned can you?

Instead, as normal you resort to insults and profanity.

Still, it must be tough for your remoaners watching every single one of your Brexit claims proved false and slipping away like sand through your fingers... :lol:

In all fairness, the “remoaners” as you call them have not been proven wrong yet, because Brexit has not happened 100% yet.



In all fairness I was just asking for the details of a point that CoCo had made repeatedly... :wink:

In return I got CoCo's normal eclectic blend of insult and profanity. :roll:

The UK doesn't have to leave 100% for us to know how its leaving will affect 'The World's Largest Trading Block'... A polite answer to a polite question shouldn't be too much to ask should it...? :?

Although I would have to point out that many of the remoaner's claims (Irish backstop, hard border, planes not flying, etc. etc.) have been proven wrong already

I am just addressing your statement. The fat lady hasn’t sung yet for either side. Be patient until she does, maybe by the end of the year or beyond, then everyone can make their claims of being right and point fingers to others being wrong. Right now there are a lot of grandstanding going on by the UK and the EU.
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Re: A SHORT LIVED RECOVERY ?

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:13 pm

Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
miltiades wrote:I try and refrain from answering questions posed by a ....fucking idiot !
Happy ?



So you can't give an answer then...? :roll:

You've basically plucked a factoid from the european commission website to bash Brexit with but can't actually back it up with any facts or statistics when questioned can you?

Instead, as normal you resort to insults and profanity.

Still, it must be tough for your remoaners watching every single one of your Brexit claims proved false and slipping away like sand through your fingers... :lol:

In all fairness, the “remoaners” as you call them have not been proven wrong yet, because Brexit has not happened 100% yet.



In all fairness I was just asking for the details of a point that CoCo had made repeatedly... :wink:

In return I got CoCo's normal eclectic blend of insult and profanity. :roll:

The UK doesn't have to leave 100% for us to know how its leaving will affect 'The World's Largest Trading Block'... A polite answer to a polite question shouldn't be too much to ask should it...? :?

Although I would have to point out that many of the remoaner's claims (Irish backstop, hard border, planes not flying, etc. etc.) have been proven wrong already

I am just addressing your statement. The fat lady hasn’t sung yet for either side. Be patient until she does, maybe by the end of the year or beyond, then everyone can make their claims of being right and point fingers to others being wrong. Right now there are a lot of grandstanding going on by the UK and the EU.



As I pointed out earlier, all that has absolutely nothing to do with my points about the size of the trading bloc does it...? :roll:

CoCo used it as a club to beat Brexit, he should be prepared to defend it with relevant facts, not just resort to profanity and insults...
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