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[repulsewarrior]

...watch for this, and more fake news, on US opinion being driven to make choices in Libya.

Any change in US policy on Libya crisis?
https://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/colu ... bya-crisis

What Turkey has in store for the UAE
https://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/colu ... or-the-uae

US warns of NATO security threat as Russian jets arrive in Libya
https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origin ... z6NftP0qaZ

http://admin.petroleum-economist.com/ar ... ment-logic

[Londonrake]

Russia and Turkey risk turning Libya into another Syria https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-52846879

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[Maximus]

Russia and Turkey risk turning Libya into another Syria https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-52846879

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It wouldnt surprise me if these two end up in a direct confrontation at some point.

[repulsewarrior]

...my guess is that it will occur in the Black Sea, he has already taken to calling it a "Russian Pond" with grave dislike; and of course he has the longest coast line, etc.

...he failed in Syria, NATO will not be returning to Libya my guess, but in the Crimea it remains to be seen how that ends (with or without Turkish meddling).

...indeed, in two years, he will have a modern Navy, and in three, his rivals (those of us not "Turkish"), individually will have no advantage. And that is what he is counting on; how weak his rival, that which is called Humanity.

...on the other hand, he may find himself alone; that is to say Russia and America may demonstrate their unity, in Cyprus, both want to see it Free: and since the Problem has been linked to this and all the other issues in the Eastern Mediterranean he has disrupted end his quest for supremacy.

[repulsewarrior]

...a very interesting read on Italy's role in Libya, and how Turkish involvement is worrying to them, too.

https://thearabweekly.com/turkeys-encro ... rests-risk

In 2016, Italy sent a military hospital to treat the wounded in the battle for the liberation of the city and area of Sirte from ISIS forces. The hospital was set up in Misrata military base, raising many doubts as to whether or not the Italian mission was essentially a military one carried out under humanitarian cover. However, the Italian mission did not help the Islamists repel the LNA’s attack on Tripoli, a stance that reflected Rome’s caution to not enage directly in the conflict between the rival governments.

Rome’s influence and role in Tripoli has declined since the end of the mission of Italian Paolo Serra as military adviser to the United Nations Support Mission in Libya (UNSMIL). Serra was accused by some of working to secure Rome's interests in the Skhirat agreement, while others linked him to the military victories achieved by the LNA, especially after its control of the Sharara and El-Feel oilfields in the south.

Italian company Eni has invested in El-Feel oil field as well as the Al-Wafa field located southwest of Tripoli, the starting point of the Greenstream pipeline to Italy and Europe. Eni has also invested in the Bouri Offshore Field, 120km to the west of Tripoli on the Libyan coast.

The maritime demarcation agreement between the GNA in Tripoli and Ankara is seen as a real threat to Italy's interests, especially with Turkey's rush to explore for gas and oil in the eastern Mediterranean. On Friday, Turkish Energy Minister Fatih Donmez confirmed that Turkey may begin drilling for oil in the eastern Mediterranean within three or four months, according to an agreement signed with Libya.

[Maximus]

Apparently, BBC Turkish has quoted Sarraj as saying "“We will not give (Haftar) the opportunity to negotiate in the coming process. We will continue our fight until we completely eliminate the enemy,”

After his meeting with Endorgan in Turkey.

What a pair? What muppet would trust them to govern..........

https://www.bbc.com/turkce/haberler-dunya-52919009

https://ahvalnews.com/turkey-libya/erdo ... ftar-libya

[repulsewarrior]

Sunday, June 07, 2020
Cyprus Welcomes Egypt’s New Initiative for Ceasefire in Libya
https://see.news/cyprus-welcomes-egypts ... -in-libya/


...while Libya has found support from Turkey, in the end, Peace will be found by the Agreements Libyans will make with all their neighbours; Egypt especially.

And while the Leadership is UN backed, let's remember its credibility was lost when the Legislature removed itself, in opposition; at odds with each other without a common political ground.

...indeed, it is the Muslim Brotherhood, Haftar and his supporters fight against, this Leadership; oh the irony.

While Turkey and Russia may come to blows, with Syrian proxies, in (read: for) Libya, i have to ask myself why; how this issue has gone to an International crisis from a Civil War, with Mr. Erdogan's decision to link it through oil and gas exploration, to his hostility toward Cyprus, and Greece.

...it is not "equity" that Mr. Erdogan is seeking, for the Muslim Brotherhood in effect, but Supremacy for himself.

Indeed, it goes both ways, UN recognition. Libya cannot dismiss such recognition in Cyprus. Nor can it, by extension, ignore, the Principals at least on which UNCLOS was formed, (none of it's neighbours do in any case, but Turkey), without the withdrawal of such support.

...i shutter to think of the "spin" involved if this escalates further, who Americans will be fighting with; the Brotherhood, or the Russians?

...and if America joined with Russia, against the Brotherhood and Turkey, to Free Libya: i have to ask what of the other fights Turkey brews; he may get what he wishes for but not what he wants, with a "new" Turkey, beyond the Treaty of Lausanne.

I remain Hopeful, cooler heads will prevail. Erdogan has a Legacy to build, to "be" infamous or famous; to who?

...interesting times.

[repulsewarrior]

repulsewarrior • a few seconds from now
Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by ArabNews.
Maritime law and a tangled mess in the Med
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1689341

...yet it goes both ways.

While Turkey makes great pains to demonstrate that they support the UN recognised government in Libya, they cannot expect to have the same recognition toward Cyprus ignored to suit themselves.

And while Libya and Turkey seem to be alone in their Agreement, they cannot ignore even the Principals on which UNCLOS is based without some consequence from all their neighbours who are already engaged in a collective; which would not exclude Turkey, but for her desire, not as an equal, not even in superiority, but for supremacy, over this sea, the Aegean, (and the Black Sea): this Turkey's idea of "equity".

(who would imagine, in two short years, that Israel, Palestine, Egypt, Jordan, Cyprus and Greece would sit at the same table as equals)

I cannot imagine the USA, in Libya engaged, with the Muslim Brotherhood, to be against Russia.

And while Cyprus is very small, linked to Turkey's efforts for them, it looms big in this picture because it is Turkish Cypriots, that are the biggest threat to "Turkishness" (and his designs).

Despite decades of assimilation, about half of them still remain as Turkish Cypriots, instead of defining themselves as "Cypriot Turks".

Let's also remember that while Cyprus has been divided for "Turkishness", decades ago, it is what is dividing Turkey, now.

There will be an election this October; and it will likely become a referendum on Erdogan: as Turks, for or against his vision of Turks.

I can on the other hand, imagine in Libya, Russia and the USA, engaged against them, (read: Turkey,) for a number of reasons.

While he has at the moment an advantage in Libya, like in Syria, this may turn again, and against him.

[repulsewarrior]

https://www.oilgasdaily.com/reports/Fra ... y_999.html

...NATO mission, NATO ships, aggressed by Turkey (a NATO member).

[repulsewarrior]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/ ... 38289.html

Egypt is preparing for war.

...a map is included.