Kikapu wrote:Paphitis wrote:I for one have a very sneaking suspicion that the EU (I actually mean Germany) stitched Greece right up.
Don't get me wrong, I actually love the Germans and their ingenuity and their manufacturing and cars are actually quite superb and quite the engineering marvels but the UK is no slouch either over the years. But deep down, the Germans might show they were no supporters of Hitler and even appear apologetic for all they done but they could also be very resentful that after so much death and destruction, they lost the war. They, probably have a superiority complex and I have no doubt that in the EU its actually Germany that is calling all the shots.
The so called Euro parliament had to ask that idiotic Merkel for approval whenever they were dealing with the Brits. I believe Germany was out for revenge and that is very sad on their part.
In fact, I also believe that Germany has done a good hatchet job by stitching up Greece real good during the Financial Crisis and they did the same to Cyprus too. This is NOT a union in my book. This is a union as long as it suits Germany.
And may I also add this. Greece is a very large spender on military armaments. Probably the only country in NATO to spend the same amount or percentage of GDP as the USA. As a result, Greece has developed a formidable military capability that is able to protect its interests and this is so important when Trillions of Dollars of Oil and Gas resources are at stake. Greece today is very close to war with Turkey. Sad but very true. That's because Turkey is trying to steal Greece's Natural Wealth and therefore, despite all the economic hardship, Greece now has to buy 5th generation fighters, Frigates, Tanks, Missiles and other equipment to bolster its strength, otherwise the fait accompli is that Greece will lose trillions worth of its own natural wealth.
Germany claimed to be wanting to reform the Greek economy, and sure, reform was necessary but what they achieved was to relegate Greece to 50 years of poverty. But it was for Greece's own good remember? They are now silent, despite Greece being in the EU, about the Trillions worth of resources now at risk which have the potential to pay off Greece's sovereign debt and turn Greece into a wealthy country. So what is Germany playing here? Why the animosity if Greece is an EU partner? Mybe the Germans have a different agenda. let's show those Greeks and Brits who really is the boss maybe?
Greece wasn't the only one. Now with BREXIT, the EU (Germany) once again has treated the UK with sheer utter contempt. It was deplorable kikapu and this is why I have supported the UK in its row with the EU. To me, the Brits played the ball and tried to abide by the rules. The EU played the country and tried to interfere in Britain's internal politics like a true enemy of the State.
But still, even after all that, Boris is still eager to let bygones be bygones and try and negotiate a FTD for the good of his country and for the good of the EU. This is what friendship is all about. there is no reason whatsoever why britain can't have the same relationship with the EU as Norway and Switzerland.
Time and time again, the EU (Germany) has acted terribly. Not just with the PIIGS, but now with UK as well.
That is the EU Greece and Cyprus are a member of. If the EU think they are going to develop into a full blown federation like the USA, they got another thing coming because the EU is NOT acting in a manner that is unifying or respectful to other states and also because they have compromised Greece and heaven forbid if Greece needs to go to war. They might not have a choice.
I said it before, many member states (PIIGS) and now UK were treated with utter contempt.
Now, the EU (Germany) is getting some push back from the Brits and it's so good to see Kikapu. In fact I take my hat off to them for their stiff upper lift. In WW2 they had the Spitfire, and now they have Boris. I hope they enjoy!
Tables have turned kikapu. I always had faith in the UK doing a hatchet job on Germany.
So the truth comes out.....finally.
Brexit was never about UK not doing well financially as a EU member state, but instead, for them to do a hatchet job on Germany and her economic successes because of their well educated workforce. The war is over Paphitis and the Spitfire was truly a game changer in that fight. Germany moved on to make Germany an economic powerhouse despite half the country being occupied by the Soviet Union longer than not since the war ending. Boris is no Spitfire. He’s not even “Fat Albert” C-130. He is just fat slope charlatan who lies for a living, which is another reason why the Scots want nothing to do with him or the Tories, and even less with the United Kingdom.
that's not what I said. The UK was not the side wanting to do a hatchet job on anyone.
I said the EU (or rather Germany to be precise) wanted to do a hatchet job on the UK. Why? Well I can only speculate. I don't have any proof. But 2 plus 2 equals 4 and so on.
The EU (or Germany to be more precise) did a hatchet job on Greece. A real good hatchet job. Greece got done over big time. Cyprus too but not as bad as Greece.
As for being an economic powerhouse, right now its the UK that is the leading powerhouse. Germany is in recession, and what is Germany allowed to do that the PIIGS were not? They are allowed to devalue the Euro to suit their current economic circumstances and provide relief to the German economy.
Double standards here Kikapu. Double standards!
On the other hand Kikapu, I believe BORIS is a pretty intelligent man and a very driven man as well. I definitely believe he has the best interests of the UK at heart. he probably has the same suspicions as I do but will never reveal it because it is unhelpful. he is wanting to move beyond that and try and get a FTD. But the EU better be careful from now on because BORIS has a majority and can now negotiate from a position of strength. he is not going to compromise Britain's international standing. It would be preferable to walk out of any negotiations with the EU if the negotiations turn to something sinister and vile like they did in the last 3.5 years.
