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[Paphitis]

I don’t know why all the premature high 5’s with the Brexit supporters with the win by the Tories. You still have a very divided country and it is not going to heal anytime soon. Add on top, the UK itself my be imploding because Scotland is on record that they want independence from the UK as they want to remain in the EU. Now that Boris has let Northern Ireland to fend for themselves with the EU state Eiré by having the border at Irish Sea, NI too looks like a good candidate to leave the UK. Wales doesn’t have too much to offer to anyone, so it will continue to suck on the UK’s tax payers tits for it’s milk. As for Scotland, they would control all the oil fields in the north.

Let’s see if the high 5’s by the Brexiteers still be there when NI and Scotland leave the Union?

Just like the Brexiteers, I will be doing high 5’s too when NI and Scotland exit what will be left of the UK.

Be careful what you ask for, because you may not like what you might end up with.

Scotland won't leave...

After Brexit they'd have to apply to re-join the EU, accept the €uro and detach themselves from the teat of the English taxpayers - you think they are really going to do that...?

A hard border with England!

You think they want a hard border with their biggest trading partner?

Unless oil suddenly jumps to a billionteen Dollars a barrel, Scotland would be fucked as an independent nation...

And remember, the EU will have a huge hole in its budget - you think it will be able to throw cash at Scotland like it is going out of fashion...? Dream on...

Of course Scotland would need to apply to the EU to become a sovereign member this time around. Don’t you think they know that?

You now have a very divided country and everything is possible. Don’t dismiss Scotland an NI seceding from the Union so casually.

I know all the Brexiteers would love to see the EU bankrupt and broken up because UK is no longer a member soon. More premature wishful thinking. More sign of hate and fascistic feelings towards the EU which the UK has been a member for 40+ years. Some loyalty? I can only think the EU is happy to see the backs of all the crybaby EMPs from the UK as good riddance to bad rubbish!

I can’t say I would blame them. Would you?

The EU has itslef to blame if there is any hatred.

I for one don't wish they go bankrupt but the disintegration of the EU as an entity is a foregone conclusion, the only question being when?

Most Brexiteers want a close cooperation and friendship with the EU. What they didn't want is these foreigners making laws for the UK.

As for Scotland leaving the union. Well on the 31st of January they will be out of the EU. Getting back in and adopting the Euro is something no Scot will go for. EU is one crisis away from providing everyone with another wake up call. They are headed for an economic meltdown as well.

[Kikapu]

I don’t know why all the premature high 5’s with the Brexit supporters with the win by the Tories. You still have a very divided country and it is not going to heal anytime soon. Add on top, the UK itself my be imploding because Scotland is on record that they want independence from the UK as they want to remain in the EU. Now that Boris has let Northern Ireland to fend for themselves with the EU state Eiré by having the border at Irish Sea, NI too looks like a good candidate to leave the UK. Wales doesn’t have too much to offer to anyone, so it will continue to suck on the UK’s tax payers tits for it’s milk. As for Scotland, they would control all the oil fields in the north.

Let’s see if the high 5’s by the Brexiteers still be there when NI and Scotland leave the Union?

Just like the Brexiteers, I will be doing high 5’s too when NI and Scotland exit what will be left of the UK.

Be careful what you ask for, because you may not like what you might end up with.

The BREXIT gridlock is what divided people. Once it is all done, then that issue is out the way.

Once it's done and the UK economy moves n and continues to grow, no one will ever want to be a part of the EU ever again.

Now that the UK has a real Government, people can move on to the real issues and the healing will begin.

Scotland had their vote, so they will need to wait about 15 to 20 years for the next one. plus I doubt the majority of them want to leave. I for one would celebrate cutting the Scots loose. The Scots are some of the worse people ever. They will never buy you a beer at the bar.

No, it was not the Brexit gridlock that has divided the UK, but the Brexit result itself, no matter which way it went. Half the people simply do not want to leave the EU. Brexit was never about the economy or else you would not keep raving U.K. having the 5th largest economy in the world. If you think this rating is going to change for better after Brexit , you are just dreaming.

Circumstances has changed and Scotland as a country will want another vote and if Boris wants to improve the divide in the country, he will be forced to agree to another referendum in Scotland sooner or later. The Tories have won the battle on Brexit by the UK leaving the EU, but they will lose the war in trying to keep the UK United. On the horizon, both Northern Ireland and Scotland are good candidates in leaving the Union. That would be a poetic justice what the UK has done to their former colonies, including Cyprus.

I have known few Scots in my life, and it is true that, you need a crowbar to break into their wallets to get them pay for anything.

[Paphitis]

I don’t know why all the premature high 5’s with the Brexit supporters with the win by the Tories. You still have a very divided country and it is not going to heal anytime soon. Add on top, the UK itself my be imploding because Scotland is on record that they want independence from the UK as they want to remain in the EU. Now that Boris has let Northern Ireland to fend for themselves with the EU state Eiré by having the border at Irish Sea, NI too looks like a good candidate to leave the UK. Wales doesn’t have too much to offer to anyone, so it will continue to suck on the UK’s tax payers tits for it’s milk. As for Scotland, they would control all the oil fields in the north.

Let’s see if the high 5’s by the Brexiteers still be there when NI and Scotland leave the Union?

Just like the Brexiteers, I will be doing high 5’s too when NI and Scotland exit what will be left of the UK.

Be careful what you ask for, because you may not like what you might end up with.

The BREXIT gridlock is what divided people. Once it is all done, then that issue is out the way.

Once it's done and the UK economy moves n and continues to grow, no one will ever want to be a part of the EU ever again.

Now that the UK has a real Government, people can move on to the real issues and the healing will begin.

Scotland had their vote, so they will need to wait about 15 to 20 years for the next one. plus I doubt the majority of them want to leave. I for one would celebrate cutting the Scots loose. The Scots are some of the worse people ever. They will never buy you a beer at the bar.

No, it was not the Brexit gridlock that has divided the UK, but the Brexit result itself, no matter which way it went. Half the people simply do not want to leave the EU. Brexit was never about the economy or else you would not keep raving U.K. having the 5th largest economy in the world. If you think this rating is going to change for better after Brexit , you are just dreaming.

Circumstances has changed and Scotland as a country will want another vote and if Boris wants to improve the divide in the country, he will be forced to agree to another referendum in Scotland sooner or later. The Tories have won the battle on Brexit by the UK leaving the EU, but they will lose the war in trying to keep the UK United. On the horizon, both Northern Ireland and Scotland are good candidates in leaving the Union. That would be a poetic justice what the UK has done to their former colonies, including Cyprus.

I have known few Scots in my life, and it is true that, you need a crowbar to break into their wallets to get them pay for anything.

Sorry but the last 3.5 years were a disgrace Kikapu and you know it.

What divided the country was recklessly trying to circumvent the wishes of the people.

Very soon, BREXIT will be a thing of history. Time to move on.

Scotland can have another vote - in about 10 years or more.

Can't just keep having a referendum every year because the result wasn't to the SNPs liking.

I think Scotland is in for a very rude awakening when they have to try and explain to the Scots that they will have to adopt the Euro. That will go down like a lead balloon.

[Kikapu]

I don’t know why all the premature high 5’s with the Brexit supporters with the win by the Tories. You still have a very divided country and it is not going to heal anytime soon. Add on top, the UK itself my be imploding because Scotland is on record that they want independence from the UK as they want to remain in the EU. Now that Boris has let Northern Ireland to fend for themselves with the EU state Eiré by having the border at Irish Sea, NI too looks like a good candidate to leave the UK. Wales doesn’t have too much to offer to anyone, so it will continue to suck on the UK’s tax payers tits for it’s milk. As for Scotland, they would control all the oil fields in the north.

Let’s see if the high 5’s by the Brexiteers still be there when NI and Scotland leave the Union?

Just like the Brexiteers, I will be doing high 5’s too when NI and Scotland exit what will be left of the UK.

Be careful what you ask for, because you may not like what you might end up with.

The BREXIT gridlock is what divided people. Once it is all done, then that issue is out the way.

Once it's done and the UK economy moves n and continues to grow, no one will ever want to be a part of the EU ever again.

Now that the UK has a real Government, people can move on to the real issues and the healing will begin.

Scotland had their vote, so they will need to wait about 15 to 20 years for the next one. plus I doubt the majority of them want to leave. I for one would celebrate cutting the Scots loose. The Scots are some of the worse people ever. They will never buy you a beer at the bar.

No, it was not the Brexit gridlock that has divided the UK, but the Brexit result itself, no matter which way it went. Half the people simply do not want to leave the EU. Brexit was never about the economy or else you would not keep raving U.K. having the 5th largest economy in the world. If you think this rating is going to change for better after Brexit , you are just dreaming.

Circumstances has changed and Scotland as a country will want another vote and if Boris wants to improve the divide in the country, he will be forced to agree to another referendum in Scotland sooner or later. The Tories have won the battle on Brexit by the UK leaving the EU, but they will lose the war in trying to keep the UK United. On the horizon, both Northern Ireland and Scotland are good candidates in leaving the Union. That would be a poetic justice what the UK has done to their former colonies, including Cyprus.

I have known few Scots in my life, and it is true that, you need a crowbar to break into their wallets to get them pay for anything.

Sorry but the last 3.5 years were a disgrace Kikapu and you know it.

What divided the country was recklessly trying to circumvent the wishes of the people.

Very soon, BREXIT will be a thing of history. Time to move on.

Scotland can have another vote - in about 10 years or more.

Can't just keep having a referendum every year because the result wasn't to the SNPs liking.

I think Scotland is in for a very rude awakening when they have to try and explain to the Scots that they will have to adopt the Euro. That will go down like a lead balloon.

The Scots giving up on the Scottish Pound for the Euro to become a sovereign country in the EU is a compromise they will need to make. It will be worth it to be freed from being ruled from London as they would prefer to be partially ruled from Brussels instead.

[Paphitis]

I don’t know why all the premature high 5’s with the Brexit supporters with the win by the Tories. You still have a very divided country and it is not going to heal anytime soon. Add on top, the UK itself my be imploding because Scotland is on record that they want independence from the UK as they want to remain in the EU. Now that Boris has let Northern Ireland to fend for themselves with the EU state Eiré by having the border at Irish Sea, NI too looks like a good candidate to leave the UK. Wales doesn’t have too much to offer to anyone, so it will continue to suck on the UK’s tax payers tits for it’s milk. As for Scotland, they would control all the oil fields in the north.

Let’s see if the high 5’s by the Brexiteers still be there when NI and Scotland leave the Union?

Just like the Brexiteers, I will be doing high 5’s too when NI and Scotland exit what will be left of the UK.

Be careful what you ask for, because you may not like what you might end up with.

The BREXIT gridlock is what divided people. Once it is all done, then that issue is out the way.

Once it's done and the UK economy moves n and continues to grow, no one will ever want to be a part of the EU ever again.

Now that the UK has a real Government, people can move on to the real issues and the healing will begin.

Scotland had their vote, so they will need to wait about 15 to 20 years for the next one. plus I doubt the majority of them want to leave. I for one would celebrate cutting the Scots loose. The Scots are some of the worse people ever. They will never buy you a beer at the bar.

No, it was not the Brexit gridlock that has divided the UK, but the Brexit result itself, no matter which way it went. Half the people simply do not want to leave the EU. Brexit was never about the economy or else you would not keep raving U.K. having the 5th largest economy in the world. If you think this rating is going to change for better after Brexit , you are just dreaming.

Circumstances has changed and Scotland as a country will want another vote and if Boris wants to improve the divide in the country, he will be forced to agree to another referendum in Scotland sooner or later. The Tories have won the battle on Brexit by the UK leaving the EU, but they will lose the war in trying to keep the UK United. On the horizon, both Northern Ireland and Scotland are good candidates in leaving the Union. That would be a poetic justice what the UK has done to their former colonies, including Cyprus.

I have known few Scots in my life, and it is true that, you need a crowbar to break into their wallets to get them pay for anything.

Sorry but the last 3.5 years were a disgrace Kikapu and you know it.

What divided the country was recklessly trying to circumvent the wishes of the people.

Very soon, BREXIT will be a thing of history. Time to move on.

Scotland can have another vote - in about 10 years or more.

Can't just keep having a referendum every year because the result wasn't to the SNPs liking.

I think Scotland is in for a very rude awakening when they have to try and explain to the Scots that they will have to adopt the Euro. That will go down like a lead balloon.

The Scots giving up on the Scottish Pound for the Euro to become a sovereign country in the EU is a compromise they will need to make. It will be worth it to be freed from being ruled from London as they would prefer to be partially ruled from Brussels instead.

I don't believe they will do it.

Think about it. Leave the Pound for the EU?

I don't believe they have thought it through. it's very easy to go all jingoistic but the reality is that Scotland and England have been tied together for centuries, and then they will need to explain to Scottish Fisherman about losing their fisheries again after the UK just liberated their EEZ from EU exploitation.

One thing the UK has which other countries have abandoned, is a nationalized Central Bank and monetary system which they can manipulate whenever they need to. The EU doesn't allow it. They never allowed it for Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Cyprus or Ireland but now that Germany is in trouble they are allowing it.

The EU = German take over of Europe. The Germans failed over 2 World Wars and now they are trying to do it a different way. Well the UK just liberated themselves and can claim victory AGAIN!

[Kikapu]

The Scots use their own currency, the Scottish Pound and not the Sterling. The Scots are use to living with their fisheries being used by other EU nations, mostly by the British more than likely. By denying the rest of the UK from fishing in their areas once independent, they would be far better off then than they are now, and in return, they will get to keep all of the proceeds from the North Sea oil. It would be a win win for the Scots.

[Paphitis]

The Scots use their own currency, the Scottish Pound and not the Sterling. The Scots are use to living with their fisheries being used by other EU nations, mostly by the British more than likely. By denying the rest of the UK from fishing in their areas once independent, they would be far better off then than they are now, and in return, they will get to keep all of the proceeds from the North Sea oil. It would be a win win for the Scots.

It's not a different currency Kikapu.

They are just printing different notes of the same thing to encapsulate Scottish and Irish Culture.

You know, this resource argument really is a hollow one. Unless Scotland is willing to adopt the Norway model (which I am a fan of), by nationalizing all Oil Production with a State Owned company (Statoil) and investing all the proceeds into a Sovereign Wealth Fund which remains untouchable, then the biggest benefactors will always be the Oil Companies. The State only gets some tax and royalty payment. Norway has the biggest Sovereign Wealth Fund in the world. Australia has the biggest Private Wealth Funds in the world which are about 3.5 times larger than Norway's, the difference being that the Norway Model is nationalized whilst the Australian Wealth Fund is owned by Private Individuals and compulsory for all workers and businesses.

So yeh, they don't get to keep anything at all. It is just to pull the wool over the eyes of some people.

In addition, these resources will be depleted one day and the tax and royalties will stop. What then.

Now the BORIS has won we are seeing the same culprits wishing the destruction of the British Union. I guess the UK really did just dodge a bullet.

So the EU NEVER cared about the welfare of the UK at all. They were just interested in milking the UK taxpayer. It's all about Germany isn't it?

[cyprusgrump]

The Scots use their own currency, the Scottish Pound and not the Sterling. The Scots are use to living with their fisheries being used by other EU nations, mostly by the British more than likely. By denying the rest of the UK from fishing in their areas once independent, they would be far better off then than they are now, and in return, they will get to keep all of the proceeds from the North Sea oil. It would be a win win for the Scots.

Hahahaha!

Monopoly has its own currency too!

I was in the Bank of Cyprus in Pissouri once when a couple came in and tried to exchange their 'Scottish Pounds' for €uros... The bank wouldn't give them the same rate as Sterling and they eventually stormed out!

[cyprusgrump]

The morning after...

[Kikapu]

Paphitis, any prospects of breakup of the UK was always because of Brexit and the division it has caused in the Union just because the leave/remain margin was so close. After the 2016 referendum, the circumstances were created in the breakup of the Union. The Tories now own Brexit and the Tories will also own any breakup of the United Kingdom.